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| Glasgow |
Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 3:12:36 PM
WHO WANTS TO BE TYPED NOW?
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Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 11:38:51 PM
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| loscust |
Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 10:39:16 PM
type me! type me! *jumps up and down waving hands*
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| .ron4 |
Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 7:48:05 PM
...and has no shame involved with it, hmmmm.
"If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change". |
| dboon |
Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 7:17:43 PM
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Originally posted by eidbuser
good stuff, and in addition I'd like to say that a point is reached that involves accepting your father's flaws. This has nothing to do with looking past anything in order to sustain or build a relationship.. perhaps one doesn't exist. (I've spoken to my father once in 19 years.) Accepting your image of him as a flawed human, himself, can release the tension that causes rebellion of yourself, his likeness, which is inherent and unavoidable, in the most natural ways of logic. It is thus your opportunity to advance beyond him, and claim your existence.. here, in this world. |
| skunk |
Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 4:02:05 PM
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Originally posted by thesingularsensation
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Originally posted by eidbuser
wait a second..... is singular arguing that you're a 9?
no . . . I'm not yet convinced of a 4w5 fix, tho, much less main type.
you like to get noticed, don't you. |
| dusty |
Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 10:21:02 AM
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Originally posted by Glasgow
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Originally posted by thesingularsensation
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Originally posted by eidbuser
wait a second..... is singular arguing that you're a 9?
no . . . I'm not yet convinced of a 4w5 fix, tho, much less main type...
and how do you type dusty apart from that?
I don't believe singular is interested in trying to objectively type people.
I'm also wondering how s/he twisted what I was saying into I am withdrawn to defend a nebulous self (??).
By my own self-analysis I have a specific self that I am trying to maintain, protect and own with boundaries. I need to create and maintain my identity by keeping things out and staying isolated. If my self is other-influenced and created than it isn't really mine, if it's shared than it isn't really mine. I am my own. I also think minimizing and separation gives me some kind of freedom and feeling of dominion over myself and my life. I am not owned by all of these other forces. I feel on top and self-determining rather than awash. I'm trying to protect myself not just from self-altering forces, but also from self-destroying forces. It over-laps I guess, because what alters the self is in fact destroying a specific incarnation of the self. Violation feels like destruction to me, and that's why I have such a strong reaction against it.
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| eidbuser |
Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 06:16:13 AM
Something about my father. I see that so much of my personal identity is in reaction to him. With him being a 3, I have a complete reaction against any form of image. I also react against him being a violent and aggressive person. I react against all forms of ego.
Yet at the same time I have an image around having no image. Feeling superior for not being egoic and deluded like everyone else.
I used to wear the exact same clothes all the time as a show of this anti-image. It was a kind of statement for me to not change my outfit, to not groom myself or have personal hygiene. It was a way to attract attention, stand out, and differentiate myself from people deluded enough to care about their image.
Another thing is that there is a semi-conscious, semi-unconscious self-sabotaging mechanism in my psyche. It's as if I have a personal desire to become a failure in life, and to make as big a show of this failure as possible. I want to become known and seen for my failure and disregard for myself and my life. There's an unconscious tendency towards suicide. At the same time, I want this failure and this suicide to save me. I want to look so miserable that someone will care enough to rescue me, to save me.
I don't want to be like my father, but at the same time, beyond my rejection of him, I wish he could have really loved me. I wish he would have seen me and had been proud of me instead of always criticizing me, instead of feeling like I was a shame to him. I wish he would have seen me as a star instead of as a pile of siht.
Maybe my desire to fail completely in his eyes is a desire to finally get his real attention, to finally get him to love me, to finally save me and be proud of me. I wish I could have been acceptable to him.
The damage he caused me... to never feel like I could ever be right or good enough. I was a constant flaw. He couldn't see any goodness or inherent perfection in me. He always saw what was wrong in me. He always told me I was bad.
I lost my perfection. I lost my completeness.
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| Glasgow |
Posted - 05 Apr 2012 : 05:44:40 AM
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Originally posted by thesingularsensation
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Originally posted by eidbuser
wait a second..... is singular arguing that you're a 9?
no . . . I'm not yet convinced of a 4w5 fix, tho, much less main type...
and how do you type dusty apart from that?
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| relicquery |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 11:49:59 PM
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I thought that you were marie, for a long time, lol.
I'm everybody around here. |
| enneathing |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 11:45:06 PM
I thought that you were marie, for a long time, lol. |
| relicquery |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 11:44:03 PM
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Originally posted by May Hem
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relicquery self-types as sp/so.
I wasnt talking about relicqueries self typing but about skunks..It was an attempt to vaguely answer his question.
Thanks, then. I didn't read the original post before you removed it (I only saw it just now through dusty's quote) but I'm glad to know a little bit of your rationale. |
| enneathing |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 11:03:00 PM
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Calmness i have no problem with but to me they are more animated than their sister type. Less pulling in and more epic body language..thats not to say that that is how a 9w8 might experience his or her own energy but how it comes across to me in bodily form
I know a 9w1 soc.sx who can be quite animated.
Otherwise I agree with what you're saying, for some 9w8s anyway. |
| MH |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 10:59:20 PM
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I have seem some very animated (but calm) 9w8s
Calmness i have no problem with but to me they are more animated than their sister type. Less pulling in and more epic body language..thats not to say that that is how a 9w8 might experience his or her own energy but how it comes across to me in bodily form |
| enneathing |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 10:53:25 PM
I have seem some very animated (but calm) 9w8s, and some who are more earthy and grounded. |
| thesingularsensation |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 10:07:08 PM
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Originally posted by eidbuser
wait a second..... is singular arguing that you're a 9?
no . . . I'm not yet convinced of a 4w5 fix, tho, much less main type.
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The 9w8s are so much more animated irl from my perspective..they are like their hippie sisters.
lol. duuude. no. but I do agree that you have a 8w9 fix. you have that 8-2 fixer motherliness going on . . .
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| MH |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 9:49:13 PM
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because that actually is very annoying.
lol..be more available.  |
| MH |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 9:44:07 PM
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Maybe you have a 9w8 fix.
Maybe..8w9 makes more sense to me right now but by god i am lazy..The 9w8s are so much more animated irl from my perspective..they are like their hippie sisters. |
| MH |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 9:42:28 PM
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relicquery self-types as sp/so.
I like that picture.
You say you're a 6 with a 7w6 fix? How's that?
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something about sw..I dunno..Normally i easily relate to the 7w6's ive known. Probably too easily. Out of any type.
I wasnt talking about relicqueries self typing but about skunks..It was an attempt to vaguely answer his question. |
| enneathing |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 9:39:25 PM
Scorp 
Maybe you have a 9w8 fix.
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If anyone wants, they can type me. Yeah, asking again...
Just don't type me as a 9 anymore, seriously, because that actually is very annoying.
lol. |
| dusty |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 9:37:22 PM
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Originally posted by May Hem
Relicquery he self typed as sp/sx i think..I always thought sp/soc and i think he brought that up before.
Dusty I do not experience myself as fuzzy and nonsensical..so you know except when it is intentional. Being typed as a 9 is easily the worst type picked for me. six fits so much better
I relate to reactivity and overthinking things. And i probably am 7w6 fixed. It's an easy discussion..like it is with type 8 in general.If you were to stand me with ten type 9 children you wouldnt have a question on me being a nine.
found this picture of me earlier.
I'm not even recognisable as that girl but the only thing that says nine to me is my horrific posture, which i think alot of nines experience right along with fours. To me it has to do with the function of the lungs. I noticed my fists were balled up off the bat..and my snotty lack of any real smile
relicquery self-types as sp/so.
I like that picture.
You say you're a 6 with a 7w6 fix? How's that?
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Originally posted by thesingularsensation
in this case I gather that you are drawn in precisely to defend a nebulousness of self.
I'd say a fragile self. |
| dusty |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 8:52:25 PM
Actually, I can see how I really narrow and limit myself so I fit my self-image. |
| dusty |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 8:31:47 PM
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Originally posted by eidbuser
I often get the feeling around 5s that they perceive the world as a sort of black hole. Everything threatens to suck them in an annihilate them. The black hole of the world threatens to rip them apart and destroy them, and so their primary focus is on maintaining these very solid boundaries that will preserve their sense of self.
The focus for 5s on knowledge is an unconscious attempt at seeking power, the power to resist the annihilating force of existence. Knowledge seems to be the way to fortify the walls of her fortress. 5s try to develop this power by becoming the "all-knowing-one."
What they need though is not more intellectual power, but a massive force of life in their bodies.
I appreciate you sharing your insights about 5, seeing as I have hardly known any.
I don't have much interest in knowledge. I'm more interested in what I can figure out for myself. When I read a book I have more fun thinking about the ideas that the book sparks in me. I can see how watching people on here and figuring them out is about power for me.
The only time I was ever really obsessed with gathering knowledge was years back when I was reading about rock music and I thought I needed to know everything because eventually I would join the underground music culture. But I eventually got bored and lost interest after I realized I knew everything. I never joined. |
| eidbuser |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 8:16:13 PM
wait a second..... is singular arguing that you're a 9?
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| dusty |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 8:13:32 PM
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see, that's thing, though. if you are an island, you are an island. there is no need to obsess about maintaining it. and you are supposed to be soc-last on top of this, right?
Yeah. I usually obsess more when I start getting unhealthy or when something threatens my bounded seperatness.
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I don't see 'diffuse' and 'drawn in' as necessarily opposing each other. in this case I gather that you are drawn in precisely to defend a nebulousness of self.
can you explain what you mean by changing and destroying? how would that happen? do you have to be around others physically, or will just reading about or watching from a distance do it?
I don't have a nebulous sense of self. When I was talking to eidbuser I was struck by how utterly foreign his self is from my self.
Anything that touches the self can alter the self. |
| thesingularsensation |
Posted - 04 Apr 2012 : 7:59:36 PM
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Originally posted by dusty
My self is not diffuse. It's tightly drawn in.
I'm worried about something coming in and changing and destroying my self, my cordoned off precious self.
I don't see 'diffuse' and 'drawn in' as necessarily opposing each other. in this case I gather that you are drawn in precisely to defend a nebulousness of self.
can you explain what you mean by changing and destroying? how would that happen? do you have to be around others physically, or will just reading about or watching from a distance do it?
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