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nycbellissima
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 Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 8:52:36 PM
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Originally posted by sixodus, on the "Hey 6s: What clinched it for you?" thread
On that subject, a question for counterphobics and 6w7s: Woodie Allen's standard character is a pretty good prototype for the not-so-healthy ph. 6w5 (though I think Allen himself is a four). Is there a comparably iconic figure for you? A person, in other words, who's pretty universally known and who sums up the sub-type's (or w7's) pecularities in a kind of funny or caricatured way? I ask because I think sometimes these exaggerated celebrity shorthands can really make light bulbs go on for people having trouble typing themselves.
i'd love to open this question up to all types, just for fun. (edit: i've slightly changed the direction of this post, and will post a separate post to find out what media figures each type relates to best.)
i'm more prone to sticking to characters from tv/film/literature or political figures, as opposed to just actors, as i don't really follow or know anything about actors' personalities irl.
anyway, i'll get us started:
1 caricatures:
frasier crane
niles crane
lillith sternin-crane (all from "cheers" or "frasier")
lisa simpson
ned flanders
felix unger ("odd couple")
(i've always been fascinated at how often 1s in particular are caricatured!)
6 caricatures:
george costanza
george o'malley ("grey's anatomy")
eric ("that 70s show")
oscar madison ("odd couple")
carla tortelli ("cheers")
9 caricatures:
marge simpson -- the one i relate to the most, personally (not chirpy)
edith bunker ("all in the family")
robert barone ("everybody loves raymond")
fez ("that 70s show")
p.s. any guesses for seinfeld's elaine bennis? my guess is a 5 but i'm curious to hear what others think.
nycbellissima
9w1
sx/so/sp
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Edited by - nycbellissima on 29 Jun 2006 11:54:44 PM |
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Dee
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 9:28:02 PM
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Wood Allen imo is 5w4 so/sx/sp. Look at his lines too. A 6w5?? A 4, triple????
Why is because he already knows what he thinks but what do you think of what he thinks? Can he explain why he thinks the way he does and if you mind, does he realize? How could he when he's minding everything? Here's a explaination to what I think but can I get it that much further with some input? Yes I can if only I could shut the [blocked due to guideline #4 violation] up!
4 sx/sp/so INFP
Sensitive Style
Let's exchange the experience. |
Edited by - Dee on 28 Jun 2006 9:33:50 PM |
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DigitalCrash
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 9:35:36 PM
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yeah... Eric's a 6. I think Hyde's a 9 (doesn't really care?)... and Kelso's a 3 (lot's o' vanity... o.o). Anybody else agree?
2w3 So/Sx/Sp, ENFJ |
Edited by - DigitalCrash on 28 Jun 2006 9:40:03 PM |
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4wants8
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 10:09:26 PM
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Originally posted by DigitalCrash
yeah... Eric's a 6. I think Hyde's a 9 (doesn't really care?)... and Kelso's a 3 (lot's o' vanity... o.o). Anybody else agree?
2w3 So/Sx/Sp, ENFJ
Hyde's yummy.
INFJ
4w3 w5 sp/sx
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virtual-librarian
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 10:48:25 PM
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I don't think Elaine from Seinfeld is a 5. I think she's more like a 1. Could also be a 3.
Laura
5w6
type stacking: 5 > 1,9 > 3,6 > 4, 7 > 8 > 2
INTX
SX last
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heratyck
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 10:54:19 PM
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Originally posted by nycbellissima
1 caricatures:
frasier crane
niles crane
Neither of these characters are a one... Tho you are close on Niles... He's a prussian six...
quote:
6 caricatures:
oscar madison ("odd couple")
How come you've typed him a six?
*001101010111011100110100*
Hey... Get your own bucket of weird... |
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entre1
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 10:55:14 PM
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elaine bettis on seinfeld...3w4
lisa simpson is also 3w4...lots of 3w4s have a perfectionistic streak
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Edited by - entre1 on 28 Jun 2006 10:56:08 PM |
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heratyck
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 10:56:52 PM
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Originally posted by DigitalCrash
yeah... Eric's a 6. I think Hyde's a 9 (doesn't really care?)... and Kelso's a 3 (lot's o' vanity... o.o). Anybody else agree?
2w3 So/Sx/Sp, ENFJ
Hyde is a 7w8 IMO...
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Hey... Get your own bucket of weird... |
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sixodus
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 11:08:21 PM
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=6 caricatures:
oscar madison ("odd couple") How come you've typed him a six?
Are you kidding? What else could Oscar possibly be? |
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sixodus
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Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 11:10:55 PM
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Originally posted by heratyck
quote:
Originally posted by nycbellissima
1 caricatures:
frasier crane
niles crane
Neither of these characters are a one... Tho you are close on Niles... He's a prussian six...
Again, are you kidding? Sorry, both those Crane boys are ones, plain and simple. |
Edited by - sixodus on 28 Jun 2006 11:26:56 PM |
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DigitalCrash
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 12:31:40 AM
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9 caricatures:
fez ("that 70s show")
nycbellissima
9w1
sx/so/sp
INFP
I thought Fez was suppose to be a sexual needy 2w3, damit... lol... 
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heratyck
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:04:05 AM
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Originally posted by sixodus
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oscar madison ("odd couple") How come you've typed him a six?
Are you kidding? What else could Oscar possibly be?
Are you referring to Walter Matthau's portrayal, or the Jack Klugmans?
The character portrayed by klugman on the tv series was a 9w8...
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heratyck
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:22:59 AM
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Originally posted by sixodus
Again, are you kidding? Sorry, both those Crane boys are ones, plain and simple.
Niles is a 6w5... prussian style... he's wound up tighter than an eight day clock... clearly visible anxiety... the character just screams double fear/head energy... And frasier is a 3...very self promoting and image oriented...I can see how you would think they were ones tho... Both pr sixes and 3's can seem quite one-like in certain aspects...
A good type one caricature would be someone like Mr spock...
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Twilight
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:33:16 AM
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I always thought of Elaine as a 7w8. I'm glad someone else finally brought up the Frasier characters--I had a post about it, I didn't know what types they were. LOL definitely Lillith was a 1. I remember someone else typed Niles as a prussian 6. I thought Frasier was a 3w4, but I could see him being a 1 too. He and Niles are hard to type, I think. Niles was so snobby I immediately thought of 3, too. Very image conscious--they both were. Carla is either a CP6, but I've also thought she might be an 8. Oh! One of my favorite 1s is on the now defunct Commander in Chief--the President was a healthy 1, I thought. She was very idealistic, a leader, very level-headed. LOL I was watching Little House on the Prairie earlier today and I realized that Eliza Jane was most indeed a 9. I was trying to figure out the rest of the family--I know Laura Ingalls Wilder was typed as a 9, but she didn't quite seem that way on the show. Charles seemed like a compliant type--either a 1/2 combination or a 6. I think Caroline was a 2, and Mary was a 9.
Twilight
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Habanero
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:39:50 AM
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And here I thought Frasier Crane was a 4w3. Lilith is a 5.
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entre1
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 02:42:40 AM
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NBA commissioner david stern is a 1w9...the guy who hosted the NBA draft several hours ago
"THE SKY IS FALLING"
*4w5 SX/SP*
4dom...keeping it dreamy
so it will go down easy... |
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entre1
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 02:44:33 AM
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on seinfeld cramer is 7w8...elaine is 3w4...there's a hell of a difference...guess who is more self-conscious
"THE SKY IS FALLING"
*4w5 SX/SP*
4dom...keeping it dreamy
so it will go down easy... |
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Gravity
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 10:54:50 AM
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Red - 8w9 sp
Fez - 2w3 sx
Bob - 9w8 sx
Donna - 7w8 so
Kitty - 9w1 sp
Midge - 7w6
Kelso - 3w2 sx
Eric - 6w7 p (maybe so)
Jackie - 3w4 sx
Hyde - a really cool cp 6w5 and I refuse to believe that I am the only one who thinks so... no... nope... the arms are crossed, people. |
Edited by - Gravity on 29 Jun 2006 11:16:25 AM |
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Loop
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 12:52:41 PM
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Bree from Desperate Housewives is a 1w2, and a caricature, rather than a character, in my opinion.
Is Ned Flanders really a one? He seems more like a 9. Maybe a 9w1?
5, both wings. so/sx or so/sp, or...
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DigitalCrash
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 1:50:04 PM
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Originally posted by Loop
Bree from Desperate Housewives is a 1w2, and a caricature, rather than a character, in my opinion.
Is Ned Flanders really a one? He seems more like a 9. Maybe a 9w1?
5, both wings. so/sx or so/sp, or...
or a 1w9. Remember... he trusts too much in the bible and is like... all "Justice" and "Good and Evil".
Also... what's CP? o.o
2w3 So/Sx/Sp, ENFJ |
Edited by - DigitalCrash on 29 Jun 2006 1:51:46 PM |
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Habanero
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 2:08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Gravity
Hyde - a really cool cp 6w5 and I refuse to believe that I am the only one who thinks so... no... nope... the arms are crossed, people.
You're not the only one. Hyde has a cynical edge that frankly doesn’t exist in the positive triad in general, and Sevens in particular. Geezus ppl are we even watching the same show? 
(Gravity, I think the rest of your typings are dead on as well.)
Edit: One of my favorite Kittisims: "We don’t tell each other what we really think. That’s what makes us a family." lol! |
Edited by - Habanero on 29 Jun 2006 2:18:46 PM |
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Habanero
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 2:31:29 PM
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Originally posted by Loop
Bree from Desperate Housewives is a 1w2, and a caricature, rather than a character, in my opinion.
Is Ned Flanders really a one? He seems more like a 9. Maybe a 9w1?
5, both wings. so/sx or so/sp, or...
Oh gawd, Flanders is one of those chripy platitudinous Nines who make me hate myself for wanting to throttle them.
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Dreamy4
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 3:19:48 PM
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What if one does not watch stupid TV shows? What then? (in very bad mood today)
4W5
INFP sx/sp/so
Excess of sorrow laughs. Excess of joy weeps.
-William Blake
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sixodus
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 8:54:03 PM
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Niles is a 6w5... prussian style... he's wound up tighter than an eight day clock... clearly visible anxiety... the character just screams double fear/head energy...
Good points on Niles -- I stand corrected. (Though sticking to my guns on Frasier and Oscar...) |
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Gravity
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 9:37:57 PM
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Habanero wrote:
(Gravity, I think the rest of your typings are dead on as well.)
Edit: One of my favorite Kittisims: "We don’t tell each other what we really think. That’s what makes us a family." lol!
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Dreamy4 wrote:
What if one does not watch stupid TV shows? What then? (in very bad mood today)
Well, do you read stupid books or watch stupid movies?  |
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anon
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 10:01:57 PM
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Grr 
Sevens can be very, very cynical Habanero. They can often deal in extremes, therefore be the best, funniest, wittiest, most charming and outgoing yet depressive, unhealthy, unhappy and addictive people you know. I dont understand everyone's huge misconception with them -- they cant be generalised, like 6w5's verse 6w7's. Because of their extremes, they have just as much tendency (if not more) to become unhappy as any type. I generally find their balance of depth and outlook on life to be very refreshing, I find them real.
Damnit, when will people see?! Im sure most 7'es will agree that they hate these percieved notions of their shallow bubbliness, or unability to be unhappy/cynical.
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Edited by - anon on 29 Jun 2006 10:02:56 PM |
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