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DigitalCrash
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 :  10:12:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit DigitalCrash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Monica-2w3

She's a chef because other people like her cooking. She always likes to be the host, too, and goes crazy if she's not. Remember when they switched apartments with Joey and Chandler? Then they still continued to go to J&C's place instead of Monica's? She went crazy... lol... she fixed the whole entire place up so people could go to her. In the end she was all tired and stuff and Ross suggested leaving, she simply replied "No, stay, stay... *sigh* always the host". Very competitive two.

Chandler-7w6?
When his parent's broke up he used humor as a defense mechanism and makes jokes when he's in an uncomfortable situation (for example when Rachel was leaving). Plus he smokes cigarettes... that must've come from somewhere (and I think it did... I forget where though must've been after the divorce or something)...



2w3 So/Sx/Sp, ENFJ
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sienna
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 :  10:15:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit sienna's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Monica always seemed like 1w2/2w1 to me .... Chandler definite 6!
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CEB
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 :  11:42:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit CEB's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Habanero

And here I thought Frasier Crane was a 4w3. Lilith is a 5.




I see him (Fraser) as 4w3 too.

4w5 sx/sp INFJ
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nycbellissima
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 :  11:53:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit nycbellissima's Homepage  Reply with Quote
here's my take on "that 70s show":

kitty -- 2w3
red -- 6w5
eric -- 6w5
donna -- 8w9
hyde -- 9w8 or 6w7
jackie -- 3w4
kelso -- 2w3 or 3w2
fez -- 9w1

nycbellissima
9w1
sx/so/sp
INFP

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Habanero
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  02:35:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Habanero's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by saintly_boozed

Grr

Sevens can be very, very cynical Habanero. They can often deal in extremes, therefore be the best, funniest, wittiest, most charming and outgoing yet depressive, unhealthy, unhappy and addictive people you know. I dont understand everyone's huge misconception with them -- they cant be generalised, like 6w5's verse 6w7's. Because of their extremes, they have just as much tendency (if not more) to become unhappy as any type. I generally find their balance of depth and outlook on life to be very refreshing, I find them real.


Damnit, when will people see?! Im sure most 7'es will agree that they hate these percieved notions of their shallow bubbliness, or unability to be unhappy/cynical.

6w7...'significant' wing. Bite me.


Saintly, you could be right. That I've only know only certain types of Sevens and haven't seen the full range. By cynical, I meant specifically distrusting. I've known more Sevens to get their asses burnt from being trusting and believing in the inherent goodness of the universe. (Or maybe it's just reckless abandon?) My mom is one, my brother is another. Again, my limited sample size so there you go. I would never describe Sevens as shallow and unable to be unhappy. (Unhappy and cynical are different things to me). In fact, I think I've stated this at various times here. And another pet peeve of mine (while we're at it) is the Sevens as hyper and unfocused and distracted issue. Some are, many many are not. Some look like Fives.

That said..it was nice chatting with you and the other EIDBers! The darned chat room kicked me out I guess because I couldn't reply. Must have more get togethers like that.
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FDG
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  07:42:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit FDG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Congratulations for finding a 7 which is messed up in the head and basically unhappy - and which admits of being so.

Edited by - FDG on 30 Jun 2006 07:45:49 AM
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Scandia
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  09:42:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Scandia's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Any characters out there who are major 3 caricatures?

ENTJ 3w4 SP/SO/SX Inventive
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Invicta
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  12:44:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Invicta's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scandia

Any characters out there who are major 3 caricatures?

ENTJ 3w4 SP/SO/SX Inventive



3w2 Troy McClure



http://troymcclurepage.tripod.com/nature.wav

3w4 Little Vicki Valentine

http://download.lardlad.com/sounds/season11/tap17.mp3

Couldn't find an image of her, unfortunately. Hope someone remembers the episode where Lisa takes tap lessons.
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entre1
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  12:54:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit entre1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
3w4 Lisa Simpson

4w5 SX/SP
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Gravity
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  3:29:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Gravity's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Scandia wrote:
Any characters out there who are major 3 caricatures?


Rygel (Farscape)
Paige Clark (Ellen)
Alex Keaton (Family Ties)
Michael Flaherty (Spin City)
Charles Winchester III (MASH)
Whitley Gilbert (A Different World)
Dr. Robert Kelso (Scrubs) - though I expect someone will tell me he's a 1.

...Also, Angelina Jolie's character in Life or Something Like It...

Carter (I think): The world doesn't revolve around you, Mike.
Michael: Are you calling my mom a liar?
--Spin City
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4wants8
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  6:25:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit 4wants8's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scandia

Any characters out there who are major 3 caricatures?

ENTJ 3w4 SP/SO/SX Inventive



Tracy Flick (Election)
Valmont (certainly in the Frears film; perhaps in other versions as well)

INFJ
4w3 w5 sp/sx
Sensitive/Devoted
EII

Edited by - 4wants8 on 30 Jun 2006 8:35:59 PM
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Habanero
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  7:38:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Habanero's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Saintly -- I looked at Wisdom of E late late last night...and sure enuf...7w8's, R&H state, can be jaded and callous. I beginning to think I know mostly 6 wingers.
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Desdemona
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  3:43:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Habanero
By cynical, I meant specifically distrusting. I've known more Sevens to get their asses burnt from being trusting and believing in the inherent goodness of the universe.


That rings very true with me.

7w6 Sx
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Idiosyncratic Style

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Gontxu
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  4:09:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit Gontxu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey,surfing the Forum I found this thread which seems interesting, though, as usual, I can´t see where people come to certain conclusions (Hyde a 9??? Pleeeeeseeeeee!)

I list below my typing about some characters mentioned in here, but only the ones I´m sure about:

THAT 70´S SHOW
-First of all, I totally agree with Digital Crash: FEZ is a very ¨needy¨(of sex) Sexual Two.

I agree with ERIC being a 6, though his subtype is not clear. Seems more Social.
-JACKIE is the quintessential SP TWO ¨Daddy´s Princess¨
-KITTY seems like Two as well,but not so sure about her.
-KELSO is probably a SX 2/ SX 3. We´d have to see what´s more outstanding in him, if SEDUCTION (more active) or SEX-APPEAL (more passive).
-DONNA completely disorients me.And I´m not sure about HYDE, but definitely he isn´t a Nine. Probably a SP 7 with a strong 8 wing.

SEINFELD´S ELAINE

She always seemed very Twoish to me,a meddling, manipulating and neurotycal one.

LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE

In spite I´ve seen all the (eternal) seasons when I was a kid (but then, I didn´t know about the E), the only characters that come clearly to me are MARY INGALLS, a SP 3 and MRS OLESON, a very unhealthy Social Two.
NELLY seems to be the sterotype of the ¨spoiled brat¨ SP 2, though she could be a very unhealthy little Social Three as well. But I guess ¨PRIVILEGE / ENTITLEMENT / ME FIRST¨are her core motivations, so I pu her in the SP 2.

About the rest of the characters, no clue. I don´t know if Laura is a 9...I remember her very tomboyish and always ready to put up a fight (usually defending others). I don´t know? CP 6??

GONTXU
IT´s A City Of Strangers, Some Come To Stare, Some To Stay...

E 3 (SX / SO/ SP )
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thesingularsensation
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  5:10:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit thesingularsensation's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scandia

Any characters out there who are major 3 caricatures?




http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMyc4WmzIhE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DAA41TwZz1w

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_jp0WlTjanM
excellent back and forth in this film btwn a 3w4 and 4w3 . . .




jesus loves a cheerful four.
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DigitalCrash
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  5:38:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit DigitalCrash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The way I type the characters:

The 70s Show
Donna- 8w7, 8-2-6 So/Sx/Sp
She's strong, she's "masculine", she's in control. She has a soft side though, and can be very emotional at times, but generally tries to always hang tough. She is not afraid of standing up for herself, and usually wears the pants in the relationship between her and Eric.

Eric- 6w7, 6-9-2(?) or 6-9-3(?) So/Sx/Sp
I'm unsure about his feeling fixation, but at any rate, he's a six. He often is uncertain about what he should do when specific situations pop up, and feels he can depend on his friends for help. In the same fashion, he tries his best to be loyal to his friends as well. There are moments when he can be courageous as well.

Kitty- 2w3, 2-5-9 So/Sx/Sp
A mother who wants what's best for her children. She may actually be a 2-6-9, but not sure. Often, she likes to participate in family and friend activites, and has been known to be popular in high school (I believe). Though, those characteristics does not necessarily make her a two, she does indeed worry about whether she's a good person or not. More often than not though, she's quite secure about her goodness, and is often there to help others see the goodness and the positive intentions that others have (for example, helping others see Red's good intentions).

Jackie- 2w3 2-7-9 Sp/Sx/So
By far an sp 2. Daddy's little princess. She often like to look and feel "cute", and she's accustomed to demonstrate her love by literally giving to others, even though it makes her seem false. In the same fashion, she wishes others to demonstrate their love to her by giving back. She often gets upset with Kelso, because Kelso can sometimes cheat on her and stuff, and doesn't take it lightly when a boyfriend betrays her. She likes to be the provider in the relationship, and this is quite apparent. In one episode, for example, she decorated Hyde's room and made it all nice and comfortable for him. Hyde was initially appalled by all the pink, but enjoyed the comfort of the bed.

Fez- 2w3 Sx/So/Sp 2-7-9 or 2-6-9
Fez loves to love, and in general is always demonstrating his love to others in a less materialistic way than Jackie. Usually, he tries to dedicate things such as love songs to his girlfriends in an attempt to get their love and attention. I think I don't really have to describe him much, as it's pretty obvious that he's a two.

Red- 8w7 So/Sp/Sx 8-2(?)-6
Red is probably another 8. Though, some have said that he might be a cp 6, I'm not sure, and don't really think so. At any rate, like Donna, he's not afraid to speak up for himself. He often feels that he should get his son ready for the hard aspects of life and ends up treating him harshly. Though, this is only because he cares for him (as Kitty stated), and wants him to lead a good life. He can be a really good friend as well, and can be depended on. When he sees something go wrong, he's not afraid to speak up about it (like Hyde's father being a bad father), and can be protective of his friends and family.

Bob- 2w3 So/Sx/Sp 2-6-9 or 2-7-9
Bob is definitely a caring father, like Kitty, and wants what's best for Donna. He often doesn't know how to deal with her sometimes, because he fears being a bad father. Nevertheless, he knows he has to be "the father" at times, and might ground her, but feel incapable of doing so, thus taking it back. Which obviously gets Red pretty angry. Nevertheless, Bob can also get angry as well, and sometimes it can be notable that the kids (such as Eric) fear him. Though, that doesn't happen too often.

Midge- 2w3 So/Sx/Sp 2-7-9
She's not the brightest of the group. Initially, you might think (along with Jackie) oh, yes, she's a 3, though that's not really the case. Midge doesn't seem to be interested in appearing good, she really seems more interesting in being a good person. Actually, there is probably a possibility that she could be a 9-2-7. Though, I'm not sure. She's generally easy-going, and sometimes can be seen taking advantage of Bob's good nature. Donna seems to hate this manipulative nature of hers, because... well, Donna's a feminist and doesn't believe in manipulating men either.

Hyde- 9w8 So/Sx/Sp 9-4-7
Hyde is the easy-going one of the group. He can be kind and caring too. He seems to have dealt with his parents by ignoring their negative aspects, and just wants to live a good life without trouble or conflict. He has a tendency to shut down at times, and simply turn off. He's also a smoker and wants to get high, probably from desiring to forget the negative aspects of life. Of course, he has a pretty big 7 in him, but is not wild enough like an unhealthy 7 would be. He likes to simply sit back and relax.

Kelso- 3w2 Sx/So/Sp 3-7-9
I'm not sure on Kelso, Kelso can either be a 3 or a 2. I think he's a 3. He doesn't seem to be interested in demonstrating his love in any fashion, unless he feels he needs to in order to impress Jackie. He has a tendency to be the most hyper of the group, and of course doesn't want conflict either. He also has a tendency to lie. Blah, I don't really know. Kelso's either a 2 or a 3.

2w3 So/Sx/Sp, ENFJ 2-5-9
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Gontxu
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  7:23:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Gontxu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Digital,

Clap, clap! You made an EXCELLENT breakdown analysis of the show´s characters and pretty accurate. You ALMOST convinced me about Hyde being a 9...though I´ve never seen a so cynical and sarcastic Nine...And remember that Sevens tend to ignore certain things as well, in order to avoid pain...But well, if I think of my friend Serena , she´s a Social 9 but she seems very Sevenish. And now that I recall, she can be sarcastic sometimes...

Anyway, CONGRATS FOR YOUR ANALYSIS, IT´S EXCELLENT!

GONTXU
IT´s A City Of Strangers, Some Come To Stare, Some To Stay...

E 3 (SX / SO/ SP )
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DigitalCrash
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  7:29:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit DigitalCrash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gontxu

Digital,

Clap, clap! You made an EXCELLENT breakdown analysis of the show´s characters and pretty accurate. You ALMOST convinced me about Hyde being a 9...though I´ve never seen a so cynical and sarcastic Nine...And remember that Sevens tend to ignore certain things as well, in order to avoid pain...But well, if I think of my friend Serena , she´s a Social 9 but she seems very Sevenish. And now that I recall, she can be sarcastic sometimes...

Anyway, CONGRATS FOR YOUR ANALYSIS, IT´S EXCELLENT!

GONTXU
IT´s A City Of Strangers, Some Come To Stare, Some To Stay...

E 3 (SX / SO/ SP )
ENFJ





Hehe.

Thanks...

I think the darker side of Hyde is brought upon by his 4 (in the trifix).

2w3 So/Sx/Sp, ENFJ 2-5-9
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Gontxu
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  7:30:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Gontxu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, and yes, I guess KELSO is more a Sexual 3 rather than Sexual 2.

The problem here is that, myself being a Sexual Three, it´s embarrising to be refelected in Kelso..He´s sooooooo SHALLOW and VAIN!
I mean, now I´m 40 (but I look MUCH YOUNGER...) and I consider myself very intelectual but if I think of myself at 17 (which is the supposed age of the main characters), I was as shallow as Kelso and the problems he gets into because of not facing the truth reminds me of the same sort of troubles I got when I was a teen...OUCH! IT HURTS!

GONTXU
IT´s A City Of Strangers, Some Come To Stare, Some To Stay...

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DigitalCrash
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Posted - 30 Mar 2008 :  7:59:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit DigitalCrash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gontxu

Oh, and yes, I guess KELSO is more a Sexual 3 rather than Sexual 2.

The problem here is that, myself being a Sexual Three, it´s embarrising to be refelected in Kelso..He´s sooooooo SHALLOW and VAIN!
I mean, now I´m 40 (but I look MUCH YOUNGER...) and I consider myself very intelectual but if I think of myself at 17 (which is the supposed age of the main characters), I was as shallow as Kelso and the problems he gets into because of not facing the truth reminds me of the same sort of troubles I got when I was a teen...OUCH! IT HURTS!

GONTXU
IT´s A City Of Strangers, Some Come To Stare, Some To Stay...

E 3 (SX / SO/ SP )
ENFJ





Yeah, I can see how that's embarrassing. Sometimes I get embarrassed by some of the twos as well. They're so selfish and self-centered.

Though, I guess you just have to keep in mind that they're not you and that they're different.

For Seinfeld, I honestly don't think that Elaine is a 2. Rather, Elaine, George and Jerry are all 6s. Kramer's a 7-9-2.

I'm not sure about their trifix, I would have to think:

Jerry- 6w7, 6-9-2 So/Sx/Sp
Elaine- 6w7, 6-9-3(?) Sx/So/Sp
George- 6w5, 6-9-3 Sp/So/Sx

The reason why is because most of the time, they just simply don't know what it is they have to do. I know it may seem like an absurd reason to type them for that reason, though, really, it's not really just for that reason, it's usually how they react to things. In general, sixes are loyal and trustworthy. They like to depend on people who they trust to help them out, and in return, they also help those people out and are loyal to them. Most of the time, we see Jerry, George and Elaine come across a problem, and it's in those moment where they simply don't know what to do. They feel lost and stuff.

Most of their issues revolve around that. For example, Elaine doesn't care at all whether she's a good person or not, she's just really vigilant about her relationships (with Puddy and all those other people). She often talks about her relationship problems. She kind of reminds me, in that sense, of Rachel from Friends, who's another 6w7 that's Sx/So/Sp.

Jerry on the other hand, also talks about relationship problems, but he doesn't seem to focus on them as much as Elaine. I think he also seems to focus more on the social sphere, for example that episode where he met Elaine's father and was worried and stuff.

Then George who's more materialistic. He reminds me of Eddy from Ed, Ed and Eddy, of course, Eddy's a 3w2 Sp/So/Sx who's hungry for money and jawbreakers. He always worries about his health, to a point where he becomes paranoid of it. Sp-6s are probably the easiest to spot because of the sixish stereotype.

Finally, Kramer, it took a bit of thinking, he's so weird and wacky... that it's so hard to type him, but I think he's a 7. A 7-9-2 I think.

He's constantly trying to do things that interest him. A good way to describe a 7 is that they're the opposites of twos, in that they're self-nurturing. It makes sense since two's are Superego vs Ego and 7s are the reverse. At any rate, Kramer is always interested in things that tend to interest him (for example jacuzzi's and stuff). Nevertheless, 7s are also there for others. I have a teacher for example, who's a 7. It's funny, because she's not wacky or anything like Ms. Frizzle from The Magic School Bus. She's rather calm like a 5, but you can tell that she's not a 5 at all. She makes jokes every once in a while, and can be pretty unselfish at times. Kramer seems to be a bit less healthier than my teacher. He's so skittish and stuff, and gets super-excited. Since 7s are self-nurturing, they always remind their friends to be self-nurturing as well. I'm not sure if Kramer's a 7-9-2 though. I know he has a 2, but he might be a 7-8-2.

King of Queens
Doug - 2w3
Carrie - 2w3
Arthur - 2w3?
Spence - 6w7
Deacon - 9w8
Kelly - Forget

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Sokerila
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Posted - 18 Oct 2009 :  10:21:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sokerila's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think Lisa Simpson is an healthy (most of the time) 4w3 going to 1.
See Lonesome Jim for a better 4 caricature.
The christian guy from Adam's Apple seems to be a 2w1 caricature. Very funny, anyway.
Francine from American Dad is a 2w1 caricature and Hayley a cp 6 caricature.
Well, I quit saying "caricature".
EDIT: I wanted to say Francine 2w1 caricature, not 2w9 !

1w9 so/sx

Edited by - Sokerila on 19 Oct 2009 09:41:53 AM
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enneathing
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I think Frasier is 3w4 and Niles is 4w3.
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Stormy
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quote:
Originally posted by Gravity

quote:
Scandia wrote:
Any characters out there who are major 3 caricatures?


Rygel (Farscape)


He's an E8, not an E3 - he's far more concerned with expanding and defending his sphere of influence than with his image.

quote:
Originally posted by enneathing

I think Frasier is 3w4 and Niles is 4w3.



How so?

[Stormy]
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enneathing
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quote:
Originally posted by Stormy

quote:


[quote]Originally posted by enneathing

I think Frasier is 3w4 and Niles is 4w3.



How so?

[Stormy]



Well, we're talking fictional characters here, so there's no way either can really be a certain type. I'm not really sure about Niles, he may be more of a one, but he does seem to have a bit of an inferiority complex going on. I like the idea of Frasier as a three, he seems self-assured and self-promoting, and also very hardworking. He could be a one too, but I do get an image conscious vibe from both him and Niles.
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9angel
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Kelso's not ambitious enough to be a 3, I think, and doesn't at all seem to worry too much about what people think of him. But then I haven't watched the show that much. 7s I think can also be "vain", including around their physical attractiveness. They seem to be good about keeping themselves in shape, too. "Energetically" I would say the Frasier boys are 1s.

Edited by - 9angel on 07 Nov 2009 5:57:10 PM
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