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The Enneagram Institute
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 12:57:47 PM
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Everyone,
It's odd that, so far, Michelle's type has not been discussed on this Board (as far as we know). While we are 99% sure about Barack Obama's type as a Three with a Four-wing SO (see that discussion in the thread "The 2008 Presidential Candidates"), we are less clear about Michelle Obama's type, although we have narrowed it down to what we think are the two most likely types that fit the patterns of her personality that we can observe.
But rather than prejudice the discussion by giving our opinion, we open a discussion of Michelle Obama's type here for your thoughts and supporting evidence. Looking forward to hearing your opinions (based, we trust, on as many available facts as possible!).
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Stormy
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Odyssey
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 3:07:03 PM
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After watching a bunch of interviews, I'm pretty sure she's a compliant type, and also vigilant (a lot of eye movement, scanning the audience). I think she's a 6, probably 6w5. All head and heart. I'm not getting any gut from her. She's smart and well-spoken, but there's an element of 'doubt' in her; she's not entirely confident. Overall, she's intelligent, careful, serious, sincere and honest, with a pretty fat superego. A really cool 6.
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lilalove
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 4:32:36 PM
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She reminds me a lot of sigourney weaver.

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Edited by - lilalove on 04 Jan 2009 4:53:30 PM |
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Stormy
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lilalove
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 5:01:56 PM
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I think 8. Michelle Obama also seems to be able to tap into type 2.
I will not rule out 6.. but she seems very stable and strong. She is the rock for the family.
I could not do what Michelle does. I would freak out from the pressure of it all.
 The super real sx/so 6w7-4w3-9w8 |
Edited by - lilalove on 04 Jan 2009 5:15:06 PM |
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ptypes
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 5:12:25 PM
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| I'm changing my typing of Sigourney Weaver from 1w9 to 1w2. |
Edited by - ptypes on 04 Jan 2009 5:13:47 PM |
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dfgray44
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 5:15:56 PM
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I don't know what type Michelle is, but she's not an 8 or a 1.
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lilalove
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 5:23:46 PM
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Well, Obama did say that when he met her she was very crisp and proper.
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ptypes
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 5:31:10 PM
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| I think she's a controlling wife and that Obama likes it. |
Edited by - ptypes on 04 Jan 2009 5:35:02 PM |
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ptypes
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 5:41:01 PM
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Totally proved.
"London, November 12 (ANI): U.S. President-elect Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle, apparently is the one who rules the roost when it comes to household affairs, or even handling the TV remote.
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"While the eldest male member is traditionally thought to be the natural leader of the family and its entertainment, the Obama family seemed to be under Michelle’s control when she was seen sitting beside her husband on election night with the remote in her hand."
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14796072 |
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dfgray44
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 6:09:22 PM
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quote: Originally posted by lilalove
Well, Obama did say that when he met her she was very crisp and proper.
 The super real sx/so 6w7-4w3-9w8
To consider E1, I'd need to see some significant degree of intolerance in her. I don't see it.
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JoL
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 6:28:43 PM
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She has a sharpness in her eyes. Those who knew her expected her to do BIG things. (Not by marriage either.) She's authentic and has trouble toning down her opinions, (but did it anyway). She runs the household and is focused on taking care of her kids 1st. She seems to be very principled without being intolerant. I see both 2 and 5 qualities in her.
I think she's an sp8, and she's the flame under him. She could make a 9 look like a 3.
9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP
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lilalove
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 6:31:21 PM
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I think 8 also. I think she is pretty much always on top when they have sex.
Michelle is the natural extrovert in the relationship.
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dfgray44
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 6:40:14 PM
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quote: Originally posted by lilalove
I think she is pretty much always on top when they have sex.
Typing via sex - now, there's a book that needs to be written........or, at least, researched....
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Stormy
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.ron4
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 : 7:09:36 PM
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The interview I saw with Barack and Michelle indicated to me that Barack mentioned things he was somewhat in disagreement with Michelle as though he would wish that she lighten up and not be so controlling. So with the natural matings of types being considered she could be type 9/1 or 1/9.
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Odyssey
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 05:51:47 AM
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quote: Originally posted by dfgray44
quote: Originally posted by lilalove
Well, Obama did say that when he met her she was very crisp and proper.
 The super real sx/so 6w7-4w3-9w8
To consider E1, I'd need to see some significant degree of intolerance in her. I don't see it.
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And a straight spine, especially in the neck/shoulder area. She slouches.
Healthy 8 is a possibility. 1 is not.
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Oneness
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 07:42:14 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Delph
And a straight spine, especially in the neck/shoulder area. She slouches.
Healthy 8 is a possibility. 1 is not.
Something about life being an adventure.
Posture isn't a true indication of type, insofar as 1's are concerned.
 istj 1 _________________________________________________________________________ 'Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away' |
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JoL
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 1:52:24 PM
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I agree that she could be a 6. I guess the question is... What motivates her?. also, does she show more anger or anxiety?
She's not a 3, but a connection to 3 is believeable so, Michelle and Barack together would focus on achievement when they find common ground at 3.
I recently read somewhere that a difference between 8 and 6 can be seen in personal relationships...8's try to control while 6s don't. What do others think of this?
Today, I'm seeing more 6, but I know I'll probably change my mind again.
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stillwaters
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 1:55:33 PM
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She is a very healthy 5 with balanced wings who integrates to 8.
I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Michelle Obama is a 5.
The only way anyone can convince me she is not a 5 is if she looks worse with glasses. The 5 gene causes them to look better with a nice pair of spectacles. Because they are always reading, mother nature knows 5s will worsen their eyesight so has given them the ideal face for visual aids so they can get by in the world. For every pair of glasses there exists a 5 to fit them.
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dfgray44
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 2:03:09 PM
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current diagnosis for Michelle: sp/so 2w1
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JoL
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 2:07:22 PM
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the last 2 entries...5 and 2...are so different from each other. If she appears to have have both she's an 8 or a 6.
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JoL
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 2:13:11 PM
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quote: Originally posted by dfgray44
current diagnosis for Michelle: sp/so 2w1
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I don't see any 4.
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koolkatkuhner
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dfgray44
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 5:28:58 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JoL
quote: Originally posted by dfgray44
current diagnosis for Michelle: sp/so 2w1
I don't see any 4.
9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP
I don't usually see much 4 in 2s (especially 2w1s), except for the need to be regarded as a 'special person' in the lives of others and the 'poor me' motif that shows up if they become unhealthy. And an sx-last 2 will be even more well-defended against 4-ness breaking out onto the scene.
Since the E.I. is supporting the use of generalizations based on one-liners, I'd point to her own title for her future role: 'The First Mom'.
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