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The Enneagram Institute
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  12:57:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit The Enneagram Institute's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Everyone,

It's odd that, so far, Michelle's type has not been discussed on this Board (as far as we know). While we are 99% sure about Barack Obama's type as a Three with a Four-wing SO (see that discussion in the thread "The 2008 Presidential Candidates"), we are less clear about Michelle Obama's type, although we have narrowed it down to what we think are the two most likely types that fit the patterns of her personality that we can observe.

But rather than prejudice the discussion by giving our opinion, we open a discussion of Michelle Obama's type here for your thoughts and supporting evidence. Looking forward to hearing your opinions (based, we trust, on as many available facts as possible!).

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Stormy
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  1:02:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Enneagram Institute

It's odd that, so far, Michelle's type has not been discussed on this Board (as far as we know).


Why is it odd? There didn't seem to be much interest when it was brought up here:

The Spouses

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Edited by - Stormy on 04 Jan 2009 1:03:05 PM
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Odyssey
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  3:07:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Odyssey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
After watching a bunch of interviews, I'm pretty sure she's a compliant type, and also vigilant (a lot of eye movement, scanning the audience). I think she's a 6, probably 6w5. All head and heart. I'm not getting any gut from her. She's smart and well-spoken, but there's an element of 'doubt' in her; she's not entirely confident. Overall, she's intelligent, careful, serious, sincere and honest, with a pretty fat superego. A really cool 6.


Something about life being an adventure.
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lilalove
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Haiti
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  4:32:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit lilalove's Homepage  Reply with Quote
She reminds me a lot of sigourney weaver.






The super real sx/so
6w7-4w3-9w8

Edited by - lilalove on 04 Jan 2009 4:53:30 PM
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Stormy
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  4:56:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lilalove

She reminds me a lot of sigourney weaver.


Do you think Sigourney Weaver is an E8?

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lilalove
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  5:01:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit lilalove's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think 8.
Michelle Obama also seems to be able to tap into type 2.

I will not rule out 6.. but she seems very stable and strong. She is the rock for the family.

I could not do what Michelle does. I would freak out from the pressure of it all.


The super real sx/so
6w7-4w3-9w8

Edited by - lilalove on 04 Jan 2009 5:15:06 PM
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ptypes
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  5:12:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit ptypes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm changing my typing of Sigourney Weaver from 1w9 to 1w2.

Edited by - ptypes on 04 Jan 2009 5:13:47 PM
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dfgray44
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  5:15:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit dfgray44's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't know what type Michelle is, but she's not an 8 or a 1.





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lilalove
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  5:23:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit lilalove's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, Obama did say that when he met her she was very crisp and proper.




The super real sx/so
6w7-4w3-9w8

Edited by - lilalove on 04 Jan 2009 5:24:28 PM
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ptypes
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  5:31:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit ptypes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think she's a controlling wife and that Obama likes it.

Edited by - ptypes on 04 Jan 2009 5:35:02 PM
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ptypes
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  5:41:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit ptypes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Totally proved.

"London, November 12 (ANI): U.S. President-elect Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle, apparently is the one who rules the roost when it comes to household affairs, or even handling the TV remote.

[snip]

"While the eldest male member is traditionally thought to be the natural leader of the family and its entertainment, the Obama family seemed to be under Michelle’s control when she was seen sitting beside her husband on election night with the remote in her hand."

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14796072

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dfgray44
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  6:09:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit dfgray44's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lilalove

Well, Obama did say that when he met her she was very crisp and proper.




The super real sx/so
6w7-4w3-9w8



To consider E1, I'd need to see some significant degree of intolerance in her. I don't see it.






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JoL
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  6:28:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit JoL's Homepage  Reply with Quote
She has a sharpness in her eyes.
Those who knew her expected her to do BIG things. (Not by marriage either.)
She's authentic and has trouble toning down her opinions, (but did it anyway).
She runs the household and is focused on taking care of her kids 1st.
She seems to be very principled without being intolerant.
I see both 2 and 5 qualities in her.

I think she's an sp8, and she's the flame under him. She could make a 9 look like a 3.

9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP

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lilalove
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  6:31:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit lilalove's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I think 8 also. I think she is pretty much always on top when they have sex.

Michelle is the natural extrovert in the relationship.


The super real sx/so
6w7-4w3-9w8

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dfgray44
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  6:40:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit dfgray44's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lilalove


I think she is pretty much always on top when they have sex.



Typing via sex - now, there's a book that needs to be written........or, at least, researched....








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Stormy
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  6:42:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoL

I see both 2 and 5 qualities in her.

I think she's an sp8, and she's the flame under him. She could make a 9 look like a 3.


The female E8/male E9 couple has been claimed to be significantly frequent:

Do opposites attract?

[Stormy]

Edited by - Stormy on 04 Jan 2009 7:10:23 PM
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.ron4
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Posted - 04 Jan 2009 :  7:09:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit .ron4's Homepage  Reply with Quote

The interview I saw with Barack and Michelle
indicated to me that Barack mentioned things
he was somewhat in disagreement with Michelle
as though he would wish that she lighten up
and not be so controlling. So with the natural
matings of types being considered she could be
type 9/1 or 1/9.

Ron
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Odyssey
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  05:51:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Odyssey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dfgray44

quote:
Originally posted by lilalove

Well, Obama did say that when he met her she was very crisp and proper.

The super real sx/so
6w7-4w3-9w8



To consider E1, I'd need to see some significant degree of intolerance in her. I don't see it.

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And a straight spine, especially in the neck/shoulder area. She slouches.

Healthy 8 is a possibility. 1 is not.

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Oneness
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  07:42:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Oneness's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delph

And a straight spine, especially in the neck/shoulder area. She slouches.

Healthy 8 is a possibility. 1 is not.

Something about life being an adventure.



Posture isn't a true indication of type, insofar as 1's are concerned.



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Edited by - Oneness on 05 Jan 2009 07:44:00 AM
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JoL
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  1:52:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit JoL's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree that she could be a 6. I guess the question is...
What motivates her?.
also, does she show more anger or anxiety?

She's not a 3, but a connection to 3 is believeable so, Michelle and Barack together would focus on achievement when they find common ground at 3.

I recently read somewhere that a difference between 8 and 6 can be seen in personal relationships...8's try to control while 6s don't. What do others think of this?

Today, I'm seeing more 6, but I know I'll probably change my mind again.

9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP


Edited by - JoL on 05 Jan 2009 2:05:25 PM
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stillwaters
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  1:55:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit stillwaters's Homepage  Reply with Quote
She is a very healthy 5 with balanced wings who integrates to 8.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Michelle Obama is a 5.

The only way anyone can convince me she is not a 5 is if she looks worse with glasses. The 5 gene causes them to look better with a nice pair of spectacles. Because they are always reading, mother nature knows 5s will worsen their eyesight so has given them the ideal face for visual aids so they can get by in the world. For every pair of glasses there exists a 5 to fit them.

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dfgray44
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  2:03:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit dfgray44's Homepage  Reply with Quote
current diagnosis for Michelle: sp/so 2w1





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JoL
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  2:07:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit JoL's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the last 2 entries...5 and 2...are so different from each other. If she appears to have have both she's an 8 or a 6.

9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP


Edited by - JoL on 05 Jan 2009 2:10:46 PM
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JoL
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  2:13:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit JoL's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dfgray44

current diagnosis for Michelle: sp/so 2w1





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I don't see any 4.

9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP

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koolkatkuhner
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  3:25:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit koolkatkuhner's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1w2 ENTJ Sp/So

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSkd0xrhcQ8&feature=channel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama
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dfgray44
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 :  5:28:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit dfgray44's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoL

quote:
Originally posted by dfgray44

current diagnosis for Michelle: sp/so 2w1



I don't see any 4.

9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP



I don't usually see much 4 in 2s (especially 2w1s), except for the need to be regarded as a 'special person' in the lives of others and the 'poor me' motif that shows up if they become unhealthy. And an sx-last 2 will be even more well-defended against 4-ness breaking out onto the scene.

Since the E.I. is supporting the use of generalizations based on one-liners, I'd point to her own title for her future role: 'The First Mom'.






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