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Stormy
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JoL
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 Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 5:55:28 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by dfgray44
current diagnosis for Michelle: sp/so 2w1
I don't see any 4.
9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP
I don't usually see much 4 in 2s (especially 2w1s), except for the need to be regarded as a 'special person' in the lives of others and the 'poor me' motif that shows up if they become unhealthy. And an sx-last 2 will be even more well-defended against 4-ness breaking out onto the scene.
Since the E.I. is supporting the use of generalizations based on one-liners, I'd point to her own title for her future role: 'The First Mom'.
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Michelle seems so practical, strong and protective. I think she seems instinctual, like a tigress. The female 2/1s I know focus a lot on beauty/make-up/fashion/jewelry/nails. I've thought it's because both 2 and 1 are directly connected to 4. (and I admit that I don't know many 2/1s, it might be a stereotype and I still have a lot to learn). Michelle seems like the opposite of a 4.
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Scandia
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 6:04:57 PM
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She's a 6w7. Her trifix is 6-8-2.
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.ron4
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 7:02:37 PM
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Originally posted by dfgray44
9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP
Since the E.I. is supporting the use of generalizations based on one-liners, I'd point to her own title for her future role: 'The First Mom'.
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Maybe I missed something but the EI post on the Obama thread
says just about the opposite of your statement.
Maybe you misspoke. Or maybe you could point me to their statement???
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lilalove
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 7:08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Scandia
She's a 6w7. Her trifix is 6-8-2.
ENTJ 3w4 SP/SO/SX SLOEI Inventive
No way. Even a healthy 6w7 would not be able to hold up under the amount of pressure she was under. Not for as long as she did. A 6w7 would start to show some cracks in the armor. Michelle does not go back and forth between weak and strong. She is a stable and solid force.
The super real sx/so
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bear
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Posted - 05 Jan 2009 : 10:45:16 PM
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going with 8 for now. 3 is a contender.
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transformer
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 02:31:11 AM
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stillwaters
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 02:47:03 AM
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The 5 classification is ridiculous.
No it's not. You take that back or I will kick you!
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JoL
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dfgray44
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 09:13:08 AM
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I don't see the lusty big appetite. She's a do-gooder.
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anon
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 09:16:56 AM
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Originally posted by lilalove
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Originally posted by Scandia
She's a 6w7. Her trifix is 6-8-2.
ENTJ 3w4 SP/SO/SX SLOEI Inventive
No way. Even a healthy 6w7 would not be able to hold up under the amount of pressure she was under. Not for as long as she did. A 6w7 would start to show some cracks in the armor. Michelle does not go back and forth between weak and strong. She is a stable and solid force.
The super real sx/so
6w7-4w3-9w8
I don't know if I agree with this. And it's not defense either. Oh crap, I've totally left bread in the over-
With Death, Being stands before itself in its "ownmost potentiality for Being". In anxiety, in which one's potentiality-for-Being is completely indefinate, Being may recognise in this indefinition its own Death; as the possibility of no longer projecting any possibilities, the possibility of being unable to define one's possibilites any further. Death is, in this way, the possibility of the impossibility of any existance at all: not my own, not anyone elses. |
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bear
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 11:07:18 AM
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Originally posted by dfgray44
She's a do-gooder.
so is this guy
don't underestimate the magnanimity of an 8 who hasn't disowned their heartpoint.
also... it's not the actions but the motivation. i don't really know much about her - i'm just going on her physique and how much space she seems to occupy, but i'll leave you with the 8 word for do-good: justice. |
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dfgray44
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 11:41:25 AM
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She's a do-gooder.
so is this guy
don't underestimate the magnanimity of an 8 who hasn't disowned their heartpoint.
also... it's not the actions but the motivation. i don't really know much about her - i'm just going on her physique and how much space she seems to occupy, but i'll leave you with the 8 word for do-good: justice.
The link for that photo isn't showing up. I've got a couple of ideas who it might be though.
Does it work to affix an 'Eleanor Roosevelt' motif to Ms Obama?
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bear
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 12:02:11 PM
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dunno. not familiar enough w/either.
the pix previewed, dunno why it's not linking. here's a more illustrative one
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dfgray44
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 12:32:51 PM
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dunno. not familiar enough w/either.
the pix previewed, dunno why it's not linking. here's a more illustrative one
I think Paul Newman is a 6w5.
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bear
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JoL
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 1:12:59 PM
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I don't see the lusty big appetite. She's a do-gooder.
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Have you ever watched Nancy Grace? (another 8 female lawyer do-gooder)
I think IF Michelle spurred her husband on to the presidency, that's lusty.
People who have known her since childhood have said they knew she was going to do BIG things. They must have seen the lustiness in her. 2s are usually helpers as children and wouldn't be seen as movers so much.
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koolkatkuhner
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 1:23:21 PM
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JoL
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 1:23:57 PM
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Healthy Eights are still marked by pugnacity, gusto, and pathological confidence. Think Winston Churchill or Golda Meir. Michelle has a strong personality, but not every female with a strong personality is an Eight.
That's true, but I see too many women being typed as 2.
I don't see many 8s, but I think she might be one of the few. I would even use the descriptors above. I think she tones it down, but her nature is to be pugnacious, lusty and confident.
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koolkatkuhner
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 1:37:41 PM
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Originally posted by JoL
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Originally posted by koolkatkuhner
Healthy Eights are still marked by pugnacity, gusto, and pathological confidence. Think Winston Churchill or Golda Meir. Michelle has a strong personality, but not every female with a strong personality is an Eight.
That's true, but I see too many women being typed as 2.
I don't see many 8s, but I think she might be one of the few. I would even use the descriptors above. I think she tones it down, but her nature is to be pugnacious, lusty and confident.
9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP
I don't buy that.
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JoL
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 1:40:52 PM
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Originally posted by JoL
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Originally posted by koolkatkuhner
Healthy Eights are still marked by pugnacity, gusto, and pathological confidence. Think Winston Churchill or Golda Meir. Michelle has a strong personality, but not every female with a strong personality is an Eight.
That's true, but I see too many women being typed as 2.
I don't see many 8s, but I think she might be one of the few. I would even use the descriptors above. I think she tones it down, but her nature is to be pugnacious, lusty and confident.
9-7-4sx/sp/so XNFP
I don't buy that.
what?
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koolkatkuhner
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 1:43:21 PM
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JoL
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 1:52:26 PM
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I think Nancy Grace is a maniac (or she comes off as one to boost ratings maybe.)
Anyway, I have a gut feeling or an inkling that Michelle is an 8. I go overboard in trying to make a point sometimes, but I'm interested in hearing evidence that she might be another type.
http://z.about.com/d/dc/1/0/Y/T/WinstonChurchill.jpg
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dfgray44
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 5:43:51 PM
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'Ranginess' is the word I'd use to describe the width of an 8's energy within a given space. The spaciousness has a lot to do with superego not being the prime psychic director. The energy butts in, often unintentionally, without any regard for what it's "supposed" to do. Like a very fat person who's busting through walls and furniture, oblivious to the fact that he has a 'size problem'. Rangy.
I don't get that vibe from Michelle. I think people confuse E2's sense of personal importance with the 8's ego spaciousness - and understandably so. But the forward shoe says "concerned" and "service-oriented".
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JoL
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Posted - 06 Jan 2009 : 6:02:20 PM
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Originally posted by dfgray44
'Ranginess' is the word I'd use to describe the width of an 8's energy within a given space. The spaciousness has a lot to do with superego not being the prime psychic director. The energy butts in, often unintentionally, without any regard for what it's "supposed" to do. Like a very fat person who's busting through walls and furniture, oblivious to the fact that he has a 'size problem'. Rangy.
I don't get that vibe from Michelle. I think people confuse E2's sense of personal importance with the 8's ego spaciousness - and understandably so. But the forward shoe says "concerned" and "service-oriented".
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Service oriented??? Do you know how much money she makes? Social workers and nurses are service oriented, Michelle is lusty and rangy.
Of course she needs to appear service oriented for the sake of the campaign. (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being in a well payed powerful career, I'm just saying that I don't see it as a 2 lifestyle so much)
Do you agree that Barbara Walters is an 8? Compare the two. How are they different?
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What type is Michelle Obama?
