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faultyideal
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 Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 02:09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Scorpionical
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I saw somewhere Maynard espousing very fourish principles, as if he knew what he was talking about, enneagramically(new word) speaking...
My husband just reamed the world about feeling misunderstood and incapable..sigh.
So I'm wary of communication..hate the ass part but I guess I am too serious. I've decided JoL is not trolling and am full of regret..
Taste that LovesaidNo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWRDZwV8jGE
i hate communication problems. they destroy the liquidity of... i love you
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Scorpionical
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Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 02:13:04 AM
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i hate communication problems. they destroy the liquidity of... i love you
Hey Happy birthday to me...Wanna go to the park?..I have a feeling I will be feeding pidgeons alone. |
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faultyideal
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Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 02:16:11 AM
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Originally posted by Scorpionical
[quote]Happy birthday to me...Wanna go to the park?..I have a feeling I will be feeding pidgeons alone.
pidgeons are the devil... :///
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Scorpionical
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lovexsaidxno
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Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 06:00:19 AM
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Originally posted by dfgray44
What exactly is Keenan's talent? It's not in the music, so...is it the lyrics?
A purely technical description of Tool music: brown (kind of like how Grunge is generally brown [Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, etc]), but with Tool the meaninglessness and unattractiveness of the brown are augmented by washed-out grayish-ness...a kind of emotional anti-matter.
It's "hip" because it's depressed/morose/bleak, i.e.- post-Apocalyptic cynicism.....but the emperor has no clothes on. The emotional architecture is some of the flattest I've ever heard. Imagine a room with no windows or doors...with the walls, floor and ceiling covered in beige sandpaper.
I hope, for everyone's sake, that the lyrics are incredible.....
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So well said.
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Originally posted by Scorpionical
Taste that LovesaidNo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWRDZwV8jGE
mmmm about as much flavor as a tortilla.
Faultyideal- i think you need to further examine what 4 means, you see to be falling into the trap of believing that anything expressing strong, dark feelings, loss or pain means someone is a 4.
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The 4omantic, 5 wing.
For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.
"It seems that we are gay because we are monstrously sad. We are serious, we know the abyss. This is why we defend ourselves against all that is serious." - Nietzsche. |
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faultyideal
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Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 12:40:38 PM
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Originally posted by Scorpionical
Whaaa? You don't like the pidgeons..? Wtf?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8f811FDeo
One time as a kid I was sitting in a park feeding some birds a little of my sandwich. Then the pigeon mafia appeared, pushed away my little birdie friends, and proceeded to demand the rest of my pee bee and jay.
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Originally posted by lovexsaidxno
Faultyideal- i think you need to further examine what 4 means, you see to be falling into the trap of believing that anything expressing strong, dark feelings, loss or pain means someone is a 4.
I do believe I know what 4 means. I just find it strange that people who don't really know much about someone, or hate his music, want to type him. All types express strong feelings and loss or pain in their own ways, some more obliquely. I just believe that someone who I listen to is a 4 because of what he writes, how he has approached life, and how he acts.
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Desdemona
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 5:10:10 PM
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Originally posted by enneathing
SX may carry a lot of frustration though - maybe more than SO - but I can't quite put my finger on where this frustration comes from.
Idealism. Wanting *more*.
I was walking past the mental hospital the other day, and all the patients were shouting, '13....13....13.' The fence was too high to see over, but I saw a little gap in the planks, so I looked through to see what was going on. Some idiot poked me in the eye with a stick! Then they all started shouting '14....14....14…....
7w6 cp Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
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radical_ed
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 5:22:54 PM
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Originally posted by Desdemona
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Originally posted by enneathing
SX may carry a lot of frustration though - maybe more than SO - but I can't quite put my finger on where this frustration comes from.
Idealism. Wanting *more*.
True that. It took me a long time to realize that expecting others to live up to my ideals -- or standards, a word I prefer better -- is a waste of time, and the best thing to do is to attempt to live up to my own standards the best I can -- they're my standards, no one else's. When I inevitably fall short of the standards I set, I just learn from the mistakes I made and let them go, and then try harder the next time.
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sx/sp 7w8 ENTP
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ChristineK
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Posted - 05 Nov 2009 : 08:18:28 AM
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healthy fours.
Sarah McClaughlin(sp)
Don Riso
Alanyss Morrisette
Johnny Depp
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9angel
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Posted - 07 Nov 2009 : 6:17:08 PM
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| As a 9 looking at the Ashton Kutcher video,I'd say that yeah, he's a 9. Self-effacing, having a real sense of humor about himself and this whole "Sexiest Man Alone" thing; and look at his shirt! An Everyman kind of shirt. Nothing that shouts, "I'm unique, an Individual!" He seems completely unselfconscious, like "I'm not a big deal", again, having a sense of humor about all the hoopla of his being a star and all that. He seems really...SWEET. :-) |
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9angel
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Posted - 07 Nov 2009 : 6:41:31 PM
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Originally posted by JoL
[quote]Originally posted by baba
We can be truly grateful to live in the USA, where we have the right to bear arms.
9/1 sx/sp
Rather tragic, these words...Think of Columbine..what ever..Gee
How many Locks, do you have Jol ?
Oh, and btw how many arms do You have ?
"Banzai-tree"
You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!
I don't have any weapons...just pepper spray to defend against pit bull attacks when I'm walking my dogs.
I can't even kill a spider and wish I didn't need to eat animals.
One winter I live trapped the mice in my house and kept them in a hamster cage until spring.
9/1 sx/sp
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Kellay
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Posted - 08 Nov 2009 : 12:00:40 AM
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Michael Jackson (if you want to consider him healthy) because he really DID fulfill his desire in bringing beauty into the world and giving HIS TRUE SELF to the world.
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isabellagreenpepper
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Posted - 10 Nov 2009 : 1:31:03 PM
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JoL
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Posted - 10 Nov 2009 : 2:14:09 PM
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Originally posted by isabellagreenpepper
I think Tori Amos would be considered a healthy 4w5...what do you think?
I'm not so sure she's a 4. I do believe she's a sexual, but haven't settled on a type. She could be a 7.
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JoL
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Posted - 10 Nov 2009 : 2:16:39 PM
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Originally posted by faultyideal
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Originally posted by Scorpionical
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I saw somewhere Maynard espousing very fourish principles, as if he knew what he was talking about, enneagramically(new word) speaking...
My husband just reamed the world about feeling misunderstood and incapable..sigh.
So I'm wary of communication..hate the ass part but I guess I am too serious. I've decided JoL is not trolling and am full of regret..
Taste that LovesaidNo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWRDZwV8jGE
i hate communication problems. they destroy the liquidity of... i love you
INFP 4w5 sp/sx?
I love you Scorpi. I'm no troll.
9/1 sx/sp
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isabellagreenpepper
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Posted - 10 Nov 2009 : 5:25:00 PM
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Originally posted by JoL
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Originally posted by isabellagreenpepper
I think Tori Amos would be considered a healthy 4w5...what do you think?
I'm not so sure she's a 4. I do believe she's a sexual, but haven't settled on a type. She could be a 7.
9/1 sx/sp
Hmmm I guess the reason I think she might be a 4w5 or a 5w4...she is very analytical and yet very creative(not that creativity is only a 4's type of persona...) yet she seems healthy as in she creates from things on the outside of her emotions rather then from inside of herself. |
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Scorpionical
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 2:36:30 PM
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Originally posted by JoL
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Originally posted by isabellagreenpepper
I think Tori Amos would be considered a healthy 4w5...what do you think?
I'm not so sure she's a 4. I do believe she's a sexual, but haven't settled on a type. She could be a 7.
9/1 sx/sp
3w4..though in dfgrays world she is a four, so most likely he will argue.
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.ron4
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 3:04:57 PM
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"Jol", "Troll", I could see how the two might sound the same......
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JoL
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 10:41:46 PM
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Originally posted by .ron4
"Jol", "Troll", I could see how the two might sound the same......
I prounounce it like Jo-ell. My name is JoEllen and my last name starts with L.
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.ron4
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Posted - 12 Nov 2009 : 01:21:22 AM
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JoL, TroL, nope, doesn't work.
Oh well.
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enneathing
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Posted - 12 Nov 2009 : 03:47:03 AM
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AstralScream
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Posted - 12 Nov 2009 : 05:01:05 AM
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Originally posted by enneathing
4w3 sx for Tori Amos works for me. 3w4 I don't see. If she were a Three, surely she would haved adhered to the system when younger. I think Seven is more likely than Three, but 4w3 would be my vote.
I can buy that for Tori. Though I can also see her as a 2w3 sx/so. Definitely sx-first, and in the heart triad.
There's something about her music that just isn't all that Fourish to me, though I couldn't tell you what it was just off the top of my head. And I'd have to go back over all the crap I'd read about her. |
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AstralScream
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Posted - 12 Nov 2009 : 06:14:24 AM
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With Tori, I have trouble feeling right calling her a Four because she doesn't seem particularly caught up on defining herself. She doesn't seem to have an ego investment in being unique, she just is unique. (Could be the sign of a healthy Four, but I don't see any accompanying 1-ish traits. I think she's a Two who has at least risen to level 3 of health.) Through her music, I get the feeling that she struggles much more with the perception of her own moral character, and her own desires. Her songs are 'children' that she nurtures, many of them tales of extreme sacrifice and the love object's inability to reciprocate her gifts and affection. She's written so many songs of giving up her home, friends, dignity, whatever....to influence soemone's love. And her rage is a result of her own inability to let these attachments go when the loved one doesn't return it, or even insults or demeans her. "Precious Things" is a good example.
And then there are these songs of what seem to me blatant 2-ish hostility. Like 'The Waitress':
"So I want to kill this waitress
She's worked here a year longer than I
If I did it fast you know that's an act of kindness
But I believe in peace
I believe in peace b*tch"
"Yes, Anastasia" is one of my favorite songs, one where I think she disintegrates to 8.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbvMcHg0qjo
In a strangely beautiful way, I might add :)
It really does seem like she's speaking for someone else with her own voice sometimes. Obviously I romanticize this woman a lot.
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Scorpionical
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Posted - 12 Nov 2009 : 08:28:38 AM
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Originally posted by enneathing
4w3 sx for Tori Amos works for me. 3w4 I don't see. If she were a Three, surely she would haved adhered to the system when younger. I think Seven is more likely than Three, but 4w3 would be my vote.
Then you also go with to the whole Madonna is a 7 thing? She has far more in common with Madonna than Sarah Mclauchlin. ALot of 4w3s around here relate to her. I just disagree. |
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Scorpionical
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Example of a Very Healthy Four
