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enneathing
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 Posted - 14 Nov 2009 : 6:03:23 PM
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A 9 recently reccomended the movie 'Koyaanisqatsi'.
'It's really, really slow. It's great!! It's so slow... It's just great!' |
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mystery2me
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Posted - 14 Nov 2009 : 6:07:07 PM
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Originally posted by chiasmus
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Can't speak for all 9's, but I personally couldn't handle an 8 or a 7. Although I don't have as immediate an aversion to the thought of being with another 9, that would probably also be a really bad idea.
9w1 sp/sx INFP
Just got out of a 9w1/9w8 thing. She was sp/sx too. It was fairly boring...except for the lovin'.
She said she felt intimidated by me - I think that's because I kept trying to crank up some 'interesting-ness', which kept her on her toes more than she was used to.
She taught me to play golf though - the last thing I thought I'd ever do.
I think the main thing I learned from the relationship is that I like to drive much faster than a golf cart can actually go. 
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Golf (an excruciatingly slow-motion experience) fits with 9w8's, since they often give the impression they're moving through water. I find their glacial movement visually disorienting and energetically discordant. I also feel mentally jarred by how astonishing and confounding their motions and postures can be. It's difficult to comprehend how anyone could be so thoroughly unrushed, at ease, and grounded. It's as impressive as it is incomprehensible. That said, sometimes slow-paced 9w8's (especially when they seem to be on pause) evoke in me a sensation of paralysis (at least how I imagine it to be: suffocating stillness accompanied by physical constraint), but they nevertheless do inspire amazement.
That's funny I work with a 9w8 and haven't been left with such imaginative jarring. Quite the opposite actually.
It's curious how different experiences (of types) can be (depending on the person experiencing the type). 9w8's don't disturb me on an emotional level, though.
I agree, in my case working with a 9w8 was a refreshing change of pace. There's a depth of solidity which is difficult to articulate. He's actually been a gift. |
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mystery2me
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Posted - 14 Nov 2009 : 6:49:46 PM
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Originally posted by chiasmus
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Originally posted by mystery2me
I agree, in my case working with a 9w8 was a refreshing change of pace. There's a depth of solidity which is difficult to articulate. He's actually been a gift.
I can understand that ("depth of solidity" colorfully captures 9w8's -that "depth" also makes me think of how they sometimes appear deeply grounded in the earth/floor, while also looking like they are walking through quicksand, ironically enough). 9w8's can be incredible (in more than one way).
Appearing deeply-grounded while walking though quicksand is a colorful way to describe their physical presence and movement. Although I think they actually are deeply grounded in the earth without trying. They just sort of say without saying. I'm here and just being here is enough. |
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dfgray44
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 12:19:34 AM
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Originally posted by chiasmus
Golf (an excruciatingly slow-motion experience) fits with 9w8's, since they often give the impression they're moving through water. I find their glacial movement visually disorienting and energetically discordant. I also feel mentally jarred by how astonishing and confounding their motions and postures can be. It's difficult to comprehend how anyone could be so thoroughly unrushed, at ease, and grounded. It's as impressive as it is incomprehensible. That said, sometimes slow-paced 9w8's (especially when they seem to be on pause) evoke in me a sensation of paralysis (at least how I imagine it to be: suffocating stillness accompanied by physical constraint), but they nevertheless do inspire amazement.
All incoming audio data was discernibly delayed. Some things took about 1.5 seconds. Others, as much as 2.5 to 4 seconds. Some kind of thick cloud bank that tangled up words and sounds.
That was probably the main reason she found me intimidating - I was 'too verbal' and wanted her to pick up the pace. I'd see her in her 'crippled' state, falling behind, and out of frustration would pull on her rope to try and force her to run.
Visual stimuli, generally, registered very fast though. There was no delayed reaction when I'd flash her. :)
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NineishMan
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 06:15:01 AM
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Originally posted by enneathing
A 9 recently reccomended the movie 'Koyaanisqatsi'.
'It's really, really slow. It's great!! It's so slow... It's just great!'
Funny. Never saw the movie, but bought the soundtrack years ago. Love that slow, hypnotic music.
A slow movie i love to watch is Stanley Kubrick's "2001, A Space Odyssey."
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NineishMan
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 06:24:34 AM
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Originally posted by dfgray44
All incoming audio data was discernibly delayed. Some things took about 1.5 seconds. Others, as much as 2.5 to 4 seconds. Some kind of thick cloud bank that tangled up words and sounds.
That was probably the main reason she found me intimidating - I was 'too verbal' and wanted her to pick up the pace. I'd see her in her 'crippled' state, falling behind, and out of frustration would pull on her rope to try and force her to run.
Visual stimuli, generally, registered very fast though. There was no delayed reaction when I'd flash her. :)
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Same thing here. It happens very often i can't follow a conversation (or even a monologue) because words are coming too fast.
You can't push Nines to go faster; that's one thing i learned about us Nines. When people do that, it's indeed intimidating, and i can even grow to hate them for that. The result will be even more slowness, sloth and passive aggression.
Funny, always made the assumption you were a Nine too.
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dfgray44
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 08:57:09 AM
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Originally posted by NineishMan
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Originally posted by dfgray44
All incoming audio data was discernibly delayed. Some things took about 1.5 seconds. Others, as much as 2.5 to 4 seconds. Some kind of thick cloud bank that tangled up words and sounds.
That was probably the main reason she found me intimidating - I was 'too verbal' and wanted her to pick up the pace. I'd see her in her 'crippled' state, falling behind, and out of frustration would pull on her rope to try and force her to run.
Visual stimuli, generally, registered very fast though. There was no delayed reaction when I'd flash her. :)
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Same thing here. It happens very often i can't follow a conversation (or even a monologue) because words are coming too fast.
You can't push Nines to go faster; that's one thing i learned about us Nines. When people do that, it's indeed intimidating, and i can even grow to hate them for that. The result will be even more slowness, sloth and passive aggression.
Funny, always made the assumption you were a Nine too.
9w8 Sx/So/Sp ESFP
I'm a 9w1.
Yep. Passive-aggression led to the breakup. At the end of a day that included her dropping about a dozen little barbs I asked what that was about, and got a lot of mealy-mouthed I-don't-knows. I didn't like that...
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mystery2me
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 09:10:39 AM
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Originally posted by dfgray44
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Originally posted by NineishMan
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Originally posted by dfgray44
All incoming audio data was discernibly delayed. Some things took about 1.5 seconds. Others, as much as 2.5 to 4 seconds. Some kind of thick cloud bank that tangled up words and sounds.
That was probably the main reason she found me intimidating - I was 'too verbal' and wanted her to pick up the pace. I'd see her in her 'crippled' state, falling behind, and out of frustration would pull on her rope to try and force her to run.
Visual stimuli, generally, registered very fast though. There was no delayed reaction when I'd flash her. :)
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Same thing here. It happens very often i can't follow a conversation (or even a monologue) because words are coming too fast.
You can't push Nines to go faster; that's one thing i learned about us Nines. When people do that, it's indeed intimidating, and i can even grow to hate them for that. The result will be even more slowness, sloth and passive aggression.
Funny, always made the assumption you were a Nine too.
9w8 Sx/So/Sp ESFP
I'm a 9w1.
Yep. Passive-aggression led to the breakup. At the end of a day that included her dropping about a dozen little barbs I asked what that was about, and got a lot of mealy-mouthed I-don't-knows. I didn't like that...
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Well, you did communicate she felt intimidated by you. Did you ever try backing off and giving her the space she needed to feel comfortable? Mealy-mouthed I don't knows make perfect sense considering her feelings. Good for her the relationship ended.
Afterall, didn't you express in a relationship with a 6w7 your jealousy caused you to bite her?
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NineishMan
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 10:19:17 AM
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I don't wanna intrude or something, but there's one thing i don't understand: how can you be a Nine and
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I was 'too verbal' and wanted her to pick up the pace. I'd see her in her 'crippled' state, falling behind, and out of frustration would pull on her rope to try and force her to run.
I just don't understand, especially because i always thought 9w1's were often even slower than 9w8's.
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Quebranta
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 3:03:57 PM
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Compatibility is a matter of instinctual variants. Up to certain point, because if both parties are relatively healthy or make an effort, they could finally get along well.
Regarding the Etypes, you can probably understand better someone who is the same type as you or is a type that shares a connection with yours. But I don't think this is very important. |
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Jewel2
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 5:40:57 PM
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Originally posted by mystery2me
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Originally posted by dfgray44
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Originally posted by NineishMan
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Originally posted by dfgray44
All incoming audio data was discernibly delayed. Some things took about 1.5 seconds. Others, as much as 2.5 to 4 seconds. Some kind of thick cloud bank that tangled up words and sounds.
That was probably the main reason she found me intimidating - I was 'too verbal' and wanted her to pick up the pace. I'd see her in her 'crippled' state, falling behind, and out of frustration would pull on her rope to try and force her to run.
Visual stimuli, generally, registered very fast though. There was no delayed reaction when I'd flash her. :)
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Same thing here. It happens very often i can't follow a conversation (or even a monologue) because words are coming too fast.
You can't push Nines to go faster; that's one thing i learned about us Nines. When people do that, it's indeed intimidating, and i can even grow to hate them for that. The result will be even more slowness, sloth and passive aggression.
Funny, always made the assumption you were a Nine too.
9w8 Sx/So/Sp ESFP
I'm a 9w1.
Yep. Passive-aggression led to the breakup. At the end of a day that included her dropping about a dozen little barbs I asked what that was about, and got a lot of mealy-mouthed I-don't-knows. I didn't like that...
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Well, you did communicate she felt intimidated by you. Did you ever try backing off and giving her the space she needed to feel comfortable? Mealy-mouthed I don't knows make perfect sense considering her feelings. Good for her the relationship ended.
Afterall, didn't you express in a relationship with a 6w7 your jealousy caused you to bite her?
Fwiw, I don't think 9w1 fits you at all.
I agree m2m.....I've read a lot of his posts over the years and 9w1 just doesn't fit very well. Your just so full of[blocked due to guideline #4 violation]and vinagar DFgray. You always have an opinion and your not afraid of conflict. plus....a 9w1 wouldn't paint JOL's bathtub pink with black and red trim... lol
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mystery2me
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Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 5:45:11 PM
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I like how that last sentence ("I'm here and just being here is enough.") adeptly sums up the 9w8 attitude. That fundamental sense of being at ease is powerfully palpable in 9w8's.
I think the fundamental and powerfully palpable sense of being at ease is placing Nine's of either wing as my favorite types. I'm probably biased though, my oldest daughter's type is 9w1.
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MadhouseMannequin
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 12:45:47 PM
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Hmm...
In regards to the topic:
My SO is a 6w5. It's been kinda tough in the romance/expression category but I definitely love him for who he is, and I think that's what matters.
I couldn't date a 3 first and foremost, an 8, 7 or 2. Had a big fall-out with a 9 in the past year, we both got pretty unhealthy due to stress and went our separate ways (lack of self-awareness doesn't help.)
On the flip side I usually end up dating 5s. I find it funny that I see a lot of 4s listing that they couldn't date their type or 5s. I think their interest comes down to their health level.
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dfgray44
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 4:01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Jewel2
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Originally posted by mystery2me
Fwiw, I don't think 9w1 fits you at all.
I agree m2m.....I've read a lot of his posts over the years and 9w1 just doesn't fit very well. Your just so full of[blocked due to guideline #4 violation]and vinagar DFgray. You always have an opinion and your not afraid of conflict. plus....a 9w1 wouldn't paint JOL's bathtub pink with black and red trim... lol
I'm spacial.
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dfgray44
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 4:03:43 PM
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Originally posted by chiasmus
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Originally posted by dfgray44
All incoming audio data was discernibly delayed. Some things took about 1.5 seconds. Others, as much as 2.5 to 4 seconds.
That's a hilarious description of the static delay (sometimes) experienced when speaking.
I've been thinking of how impressive 9w1's can be (with their resplendent thoughts and lucid self-expression). There is one 9w1 whose thoughts drove me to desperation, after several failed attempts to unravel the thought process behind the endless downpour of dazzling mental gems. The nebulousness of (my understanding of) the 9w1 mindset even provoked a nightmare. I'm still entranced by how this 9w1 processes massive amounts of varied materials and constructs countless unexpected (as well as entertaining, novel, and thought-provoking) connections, all the while remaining surprisingly logical.
The aforementioned 9w1's profusely euphemistic speech is also something to marvel at, especially since it seems to heighten accuracy (rather than come at the expense of it – it is magical how good-naturedness is preserved without sacrificing precision). Recently, I've started to become engrossed by another 9w1's speaking style, with its refined clarity and intricate (yet seemingly effortless) structure. It makes me wish I could dissect everything, to ensure I've appreciated it fully. I also like how meticulous 9w1's can be with their self-expression, but without the abrasive criticalness of 1w9's. Their sense of humor can also be as fabulous as it is understated.
You've got to build your own chair.
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Quebranta
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 4:35:15 PM
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Originally posted by MadhouseMannequin
Hmm...
In regards to the topic:
My SO is a 6w5. It's been kinda tough in the romance/expression category but I definitely love him for who he is, and I think that's what matters.
I couldn't date a 3 first and foremost, an 8, 7 or 2. Had a big fall-out with a 9 in the past year, we both got pretty unhealthy due to stress and went our separate ways (lack of self-awareness doesn't help.)
On the flip side I usually end up dating 5s. I find it funny that I see a lot of 4s listing that they couldn't date their type or 5s. I think their interest comes down to their health level.
4W5 sx/so
INFP
Guilty By Design
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Kya
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 10:26:17 PM
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Im a 6w7 sx/sp and I could never be with...a 7!!
I dated a 7w8 for a year and even though it was very entertaining, funny and optimistic, I could not deal with his addictiosn, his CONSTANT escapism, and of course, the problem with fidelity. I've read that 7s have issues with commitment, they want to keep their options open or always want to have exciting new things with the partner, that eventually got me really tired. And also 7w8 especially have problems with sexual fidelity...wich is why i broke up with him. I hate 7s for now.
Another type I could never be with are 2s. I hate that they can be so manipulative and needy.
An 8...they can be attractive because they are strong, but too agressive, they blame everyone for their problems.
Mmm...I guess a 9 will be good for me, but since Im a little bit counterphobic I guess a 9 will bore me.
A 5 can be interesting but perhaps too "cold" and "not emotional", too represed, I dont like that kind of people.
So anyway...the guys that will be good for me will be 1s, 3s, 4s, 6s and maybe 9s.
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.ron4
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 11:07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Kya
Im a 6w7 sx/sp and I could never be with...a 7!!
I dated a 7w8 for a year and even though it was very entertaining, funny and optimistic, I could not deal with his addictiosn, his CONSTANT escapism, and of course, the problem with fidelity. I've read that 7s have issues with commitment, they want to keep their options open or always want to have exciting new things with the partner, that eventually got me really tired. And also 7w8 especially have problems with sexual fidelity...wich is why i broke up with him. I hate 7s for now.
Another type I could never be with are 2s. I hate that they can be so manipulative and needy.
An 8...they can be attractive because they are strong, but too agressive, they blame everyone for their problems.
Mmm...I guess a 9 will be good for me, but since Im a little bit counterphobic I guess a 9 will bore me.
A 5 can be interesting but perhaps too "cold" and "not emotional", too represed, I dont like that kind of people.
So anyway...the guys that will be good for me will be 1s, 3s, 4s, 6s and maybe 9s.
6w7 sx/sp ENTP
Kya, are you really 12 years old, not that age matters, right ?
Whelocme to hell.
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Odyssey
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 11:41:31 PM
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Originally posted by Jewel2
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Originally posted by mystery2me
Fwiw, I don't think 9w1 fits you at all.
I agree m2m.....I've read a lot of his posts over the years and 9w1 just doesn't fit very well. Your just so full of[blocked due to guideline #4 violation]and vinagar DFgray. You always have an opinion and your not afraid of conflict. plus....a 9w1 wouldn't paint JOL's bathtub pink with black and red trim... lol
"You always have an opinion and your not afraid of conflict."
CNN scoop of the day : 9s swing between "being unbothered by things" and "being bothered by things". Their normal mode is to deny how much a situation bugs them, but periodically, that 1-wing (or 8-wing) strikes with a vengeance, and the 9 becomes verbal. I see it both in my brother and in my mother-in-law : they have a fundamental desire to control their environment, but they're somewhat sneeky about it. The fact that they're not aggressively confrontational doesn't mean that they can't be opinionated and assertive -- they can be both.
Gray sounds very much like a 9 on the phone (as Kawaii pointed out in a previous thread) : his voice is warm, calm, never hurried, enveloping, and self-assured.
Interestingly, he did (when I spoke to him) the exact thing that my brother does on business phone calls with some of his clients : he started off as a 3 - by taking the pitch of his voice down, and affecting an air of competency... which lasted about 30 seconds... then he reverted back to being a luscious 9 :p
Chassez le naturel, il revient au galop.
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.ron4
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 11:49:50 PM
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some people don't have to worry who they don't want to be with
cause thye are never gonna be with anyone anyway.
  
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Kya
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 01:31:35 AM
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hahahaahahah...actually ron im 25, didnt realize that my birth date was wrong...so thanks!
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ChrisMarr
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Posted - 19 Nov 2009 : 04:36:55 AM
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i'm guessing my type could never be with my integrating type - a three! I love them but I could never handle the pressure of having a competitor as a partner. I must be a lazy nine :P
_peace_
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Kellay
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Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 07:40:11 AM
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Originally posted by MadhouseMannequin
Hmm...
In regards to the topic:
My SO is a 6w5. It's been kinda tough in the romance/expression category but I definitely love him for who he is, and I think that's what matters.
I couldn't date a 3 first and foremost, an 8, 7 or 2. Had a big fall-out with a 9 in the past year, we both got pretty unhealthy due to stress and went our separate ways (lack of self-awareness doesn't help.)
On the flip side I usually end up dating 5s. I find it funny that I see a lot of 4s listing that they couldn't date their type or 5s. I think their interest comes down to their health level.
4W5 sx/so
INFP
Guilty By Design
I'm a 4.
Yeah. Fives frustrate me b/c THEY'RE philosophical and I'M philosophical so we both have our own unique philosophies that collide. It leads to arguments and debates rather than having fun together, enjoying the moment, and talking about lighter things that end up creating memories.
And as for fours, same thing - I basically don't want someone who does MY job ( = it's mY job to be the emotional/dramatic/complex/etc. one...I don't want someone else like that). As a friend, yea of course. But as a sigoth, I think not.
By the way, I am grossed out by that image!
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Desdemona
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Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 11:55:43 AM
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Originally posted by Kellay
I don't tRy to be different; I just am.
You're as unique as everyone else is.
I was walking past the mental hospital the other day, and all the patients were shouting, '13....13....13.' The fence was too high to see over, but I saw a little gap in the planks, so I looked through to see what was going on. Some idiot poked me in the eye with a stick! Then they all started shouting '14....14....14…....
7w6 cp Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
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ouxu905
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Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 3:15:28 PM
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There's something about social and sp firsters I don't care for. They don't get me and don't care to get me on a level I find meaningful, and so vice-versa.
The 9s I've met have been frustratingly optimistic/deluded/out of touch. Except sx 9s, whom I LOVE as friends.
My 3w2 ex was a surface relationship guy. There were gifts and meals, but rarely any talk unrelated to work and luxury items he wanted to buy or had bought...
4s intimidate me. I seem to immediately disintegrate to 2 around them trying to please and impress. It's very hit or miss (and usually miss).
My soft spot for 6w5 has ruined me for other types. They can make me immeasurably happy and supported one day b/c that's how they're feeling and the next day profoundly sad without saying a word. Their unpredictability is addicting.
4w5 sx/sp
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"It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious." --oscar wilde
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What Type Could YOUR Type 'Never' Be With?
