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Metimes10
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 Posted - 14 May 2010 : 3:27:40 PM
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I have a feeling that I might be a social seven. What are social sevens like?
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Gontxu
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Posted - 29 May 2010 : 7:15:38 PM
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Metimes,
Taking advantage of your post, I post Naranjo´s depiction of Social Sevens below.
SOCIAL 7
Passion: “SOCIAL SACRIFICE¨
¨Brother Sun, Sister Moon¨
It’s the Counter-7: Sacrifices his/her gluttony in the pursuit of a social benefit, the postponement of desires for one ideal.
The gluttony in this case is focused in the desire of being seen as very, very good , almost Saintly.
Have gluttony for recognition of their sacrifice.
The key word is SACRIFICE but it’s a narcissistic sacrifice because they want to be appreciated in return. They sacrifice their pleasure for an ideal, for Goodness = Goodness for applause.
They are the most austere of all Sevens. The good boy/girl who makes sacrifices for the world. Too pure. Altar Boys, Boy & Girl Scouts, Hippies. They need to be seen as good kids.
Good for a benefit. Idealism focused on Social things
More accepting of limits than other subtypes. High sense of responsibility.
Eagerness to please, thirst of recognition and popularity. They need to shine (like 3s) but projecting the image of BEING GOOD, ALMOST SAINTLY.
-Desire for PURITY.
-Childish.
-More connected with guilt, more idealistic.
-Utopian & Idealist. Reach ideal of perfection-like Ones-, but in the Social 7 it's not innate perfectionism, it's forced.
-Sly & shrewd with face of good boys/girls, they always get what they want.
-Generous but not selfless. They can lie and manipulate (but always thru good manners), but without noticing their strings attached.
They keep talking about their sacrifices for the common good.
They long for a ¨highest kind of pleasure¨, being next to God.Many Priests and Nuns belong to this subtype.
-They are more hard-working (more focused), less fickle than the other subtypes..
More Fivish, they are not so visible or extroverts.
-The most faithful of all Sevens, they only cheat in their fantasies. It doesn’t match being pure & promiscuous. Before ¨temptation¨, they can hold themselves back easily unlike the Sx & Sp who can’t.
-Helpful with others, but usually expect a reward. Their generosity has a hidden agenda.
-They help everyone without regards, unlike the SP 7 who just helps those of their convenience (and whose can take advantage of later)
When you need something in the social arena, you need recognition and approval. What´s the best way to get this? Being GOOD. They try to be good according to social consensus.
The most sober and introverted of 7s. Concerned about diet, image, etc.
Usually self-sacrficing, takes the burden of family, children, etc.
Example: St. Francis of Assisi (note: in order to understand this subtype, he recommended watching ¨Brother Sun, Sister Moon¨).
-" We are all brothers and sisters¨
Mistypings: can be mistytped as Social 9s for the two subtypes are very much alike.
Can be confused also with Twos.
Personal Note: Last night I was watching on you Tube some parts of ¨HAIR¨´s revival on UK and found out how imbued with a Social Seven aura it was.
GONTXU
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Metimes10
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Posted - 30 May 2010 : 02:46:53 AM
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Originally posted by Gontxu
Example: St. Francis of Assisi (note: in order to understand this subtype, he recommended watching ¨Brother Sun, Sister Moon¨).
-" We are all brothers and sisters¨
GONTXU
Sexual 3/7/1
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Ok, I watched some of Brother Sun, Sister Moon on youtube and I see a lot of myself in that St. Francis Assisi guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYkq-auTXdA
Is it possible for social 7s to not be as assertive sometimes and acquiesce to the wishes of others?
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bear
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Posted - 30 May 2010 : 1:40:27 PM
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| Definitely can see themselves (and often be) unassertive. Carol Burnett is someone I think of as having the real feel of a so7. Light, up. Peter Pan also seems like an exemplar - puer eternis. Maria Von Trapp. |
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~lee~
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Posted - 30 May 2010 : 4:25:46 PM
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My boss is a social 7. Exceedingly hardworking, travels extensively, soaks up ideas, very engaged with popularizing his vision. Impatient, doesn't have a good sense of time, i.e., for how long things can take, or he crams too much into too little timespace. Egalitarian (mostly). Is tolerant of people disagreeing with him (because he knows he's right and us slower folks will realize this, eventually, lol). Flexible commitments, master of reframing. Determined optimist. Usually even-keel and positive, cheerful. Minor bouts of irritability. Has a real sweetness about him. Charming, persuasive, successful, self-confident. Overpromises, and hence sometimes disappoints.
Gontxu--thanks for posting the above.
My favorite cousin, who is a nun, is a social 7. She spent several years in Haiti, living off the grid. Now manages a housing project full of people with HIV. |
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Gontxu
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Posted - 31 May 2010 : 1:29:30 PM
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Hi Guys!
Bear, I guess that Maria Von Trapp (The Sound of Music) is a great example of a female Social 7, she was angelical but at the same time, rebellious (even the title of the movie in Argentina was reframed as ¨THE REBEL NUN¨ instead of SOUND OF MUSIC).
I was looking for modern TV Shows examples but Social 7s are hard to find on them (mostly fictional Sevens are SP or Sexual).
I guess that Dr. Arizona Robbins (Grey´s Anatomy)could be a female Social 7 as well as Dr. Coop Freedman (Private Practice). Note that both are Peds.
I agree that unassertive comes with the Social 7 package. Most of them I know are unassertive.Don´t forget that this is the ¨Counter 7¨ so it doesn´t share much of the average Sevens traits.
I guess that in order to be PURE...unassertiveness (does this term exist? ha, ha)comes along with it, as comes the childish aspect.
My personal experience of Social 7s is that they are sweet, gentle, charming, austere, childish...but they get all their desires satisfied as all 7s, ha, ha...Though in a much ¨subtler¨way...
GONTXU
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bear
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Posted - 31 May 2010 : 10:02:20 PM
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| Yeah, my mother is a social 7 and it took me a long time to find her type because the gluttony wasn't obvious. She definitely thinks of herself as unassertive, and really is far less assertive than I am, but she is almost always front and center in pictures with her friends and her energy gets her far. |
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~lee~
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Posted - 31 May 2010 : 10:57:28 PM
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| My boss is definitely assertive, but in a nice way. He's got an 8 wing. I'm guessing he's soc/sx |
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Metimes10
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Posted - 31 May 2010 : 11:33:12 PM
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So how can I be sure I am a social 7 and not a 9?
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7w6 Social/Self Preservation or 9?
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