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linus
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 Posted - 06 Jul 2010 : 6:19:51 PM
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What type do u guys think Michael Scott is from the Office?
I was stuck between phobic 6w7 and 7w6
He isn't completely extroverted but he is histrionic. The reason i thought six though was cuz he's so worried about being liked and he can't make any important decision easily without a superior's (or help from dwight lol). |
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Invicta
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Posted - 06 Jul 2010 : 8:45:57 PM
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Estride
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Posted - 06 Jul 2010 : 8:54:08 PM
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I've always wanted to say he's a very out-of-touch, intellectually-deficient 3. He thinks he's hot stuff, but is completely unaware of what his peers see in him.
I've always seen Dwight as a very wacky 1. He always wants to be perfect. The goody-two-shoes, with a strong sense of duty and how things should be done "right". 6 is a possiblity, but he never really seems anxious or unsure (and he isn't ballsy/erratic enough to be SX6).
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Gontxu
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Posted - 06 Jul 2010 : 9:05:31 PM
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IMO, Michael is a Social Two, quite unhealthy.I guess the most outstanding trait of his personality is his self-inflated Ego.
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relicquery
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Posted - 06 Jul 2010 : 9:09:59 PM
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Michael Scott seemed more Sevenish in earlier seasons, but lately his issues have seemed to revolve around the pride/shame of the 2/3 image triader space.
Dwight is a counterphobic self-pres 6w5. Angela's a One (maybe Oscar too).
What about Creed? |
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4conspiracy
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 12:06:51 AM
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It never even occurred to me that Michael might not be a two with a three wing (an unhealthy one, obviously.) His whole character is based on trying to be sweet and likable for his ego's sake (which, of course, often goes extremely awry and ends up being the opposite of sweet and likable.)
I love that show.
Dwight= 6w5.
Angela=1.
Pam=9 (anyone seen the episode where she gives birth? Such a 9!)
What do you think about Jim? I've thought he was a 2 as well, though much healthier. |
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linus
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 03:09:19 AM
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Wow im surprised. i never would have thought of all these types.
I think when typing people, the most external characteristics are the most helpful, like the passions or virtues. I think Michael has bigger issues with fear than he does with gluttony, although 7s are anxious too. But there's no way a seven would be so visibly narcissistic as he is. Also he can break down soooo easily, like when he talked [blocked due to guideline #4 violation] about Stanley that one time, and he got himself alone with Stanley and tried to get him to take back what he says about having no respect for Michael.
As for Dwight being a six i think thats just horse[blocked due to guideline #4 violation]. He's a five! He is almost completely isolated, almost schizoid. Just imagine him running around sucking up to people and verbalizing any random thought that enters his mind like an unhealthy six. He maybe anxious, but he contains his anxiety. The only sixish quality about him is his attachment to Michael. But that's not as aggressive as a six would be, that's just his way of finding some sort of purpose in the place. |
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linus
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 03:12:57 AM
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Originally posted by 4conspiracy
It never even occurred to me that Michael might not be a two with a three wing (an unhealthy one, obviously.) His whole character is based on trying to be sweet and likable for his ego's sake (which, of course, often goes extremely awry and ends up being the opposite of sweet and likable.)
I love that show.
Dwight= 6w5.
Angela=1.
Pam=9 (anyone seen the episode where she gives birth? Such a 9!)
What do you think about Jim? I've thought he was a 2 as well, though much healthier.
Huh. I would have switched those two. I think pam would be the two and jim a 9. She seems very compliant to me and 2s are the most compliant. And she seems to show her feelings more than process them. And Jim I guess just seems complacent to me, and I know that 2s ad 9s are extremely compatible but I really haven't given that one too much thought. |
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Invicta
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 11:43:46 AM
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Desdemona
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 11:58:40 AM
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Originally posted by linus
The reason i thought six though was cuz he's so worried about being liked and he can't make any important decision easily without a superior's (or help from dwight lol).
Yeah, he has a strong phobic 6 wing. Also, he is a Sensor. ESFP, I'd say.
I am not a stereotype!
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Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EIeUlvHAiM&a=EP1qRnozdGw&playnext_from=ML
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Desdemona
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 12:00:10 PM
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Originally posted by Estride
I've always seen Dwight as a very wacky 1. He always wants to be perfect. The goody-two-shoes, with a strong sense of duty and how things should be done "right". 6 is a possiblity, but he never really seems anxious or unsure (and he isn't ballsy/erratic enough to be SX6).
Dwight is a total 6. And he DOES have really anxious/unsure moments. Keep watching.
I am not a stereotype!
7w6cp
Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EIeUlvHAiM&a=EP1qRnozdGw&playnext_from=ML
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Desdemona
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Stormy
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 1:02:19 PM
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Originally posted by linus
I think pam would be the two and jim a 9. She seems very compliant to me and 2s are the most compliant.
E9s are compliant par excellence - it's unfortunate that R&H's "Compliant Triad" does not reflect this.
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Desdemona
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 1:08:32 PM
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Originally posted by linus
As for Dwight being a six i think thats just horse[blocked due to guideline #4 violation]. He's a five! He is almost completely isolated, almost schizoid. Just imagine him running around sucking up to people and verbalizing any random thought that enters his mind like an unhealthy six. He maybe anxious, but he contains his anxiety. The only sixish quality about him is his attachment to Michael. But that's not as aggressive as a six would be, that's just his way of finding some sort of purpose in the place.
But wait.....isn't that exactly what Dwight does? He kisses up to whomever is in power. That usually means Michael, but he will kiss up to Michael's superiors as well.
I am not a stereotype!
7w6cp
Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EIeUlvHAiM&a=EP1qRnozdGw&playnext_from=ML
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sunny
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 4:33:05 PM
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I think Michael is so/sx2...too image conscious to have 7 or 6 as his primary type, but not smooth enough to be a 3.
Jim seems like a 9 to me.
What about Meredith? I haven't seen any guesses on her type.
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Invicta
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Posted - 07 Jul 2010 : 5:30:05 PM
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Yep, Jim is a 9, Pam 6w7
Angela 1w2, Stanley 1w9
Creed an introverted 7? Creed is my favorite. |
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4wants8
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 12:00:51 AM
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Dwight is totally ballsy. The fake fire drill (for which he is unrepentant), "training" Ryan at Schrute Farms, duping Angela into marriage, helping Michael take down Prince Paper, the dead duck(s) he brings in for lunch and kills at work/stores in the fridge, traps a bat against Meredith's head, etc., etc. He runs a beet farm, bed-and-breakfast, looks after Mose, and works full-time at Dunder Mifflin at the same time! He takes on the computer to sell more paper! He is true to himself, despite others' disdain, and goes after what he wants. The man walks across burning coals! He practically has a third ball!
http://www.cracked.com/video_18156_a-trailer-every-academy-award-winning-movie-ever.html |
Edited by - 4wants8 on 08 Jul 2010 12:34:30 AM |
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relicquery
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 12:23:49 AM
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Quotes from counterphobic Dwight. Note the concerns over danger and safety: the root paranoia that the world is untrustworthy.
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Dwight: Rule 17: Don't turn your back on bears, men you have wronged or the dominant Turkey during mating season. There are 40 rules all Shrute boys must learn before the age of 5. [sings] Learn your rules, you better learn your rules. If you don't you'll be eaten in your sleep! Hah!
Compliant (values traditional rules) + fear based (rules designed to ensure security) = 6.
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Dwight: I keep various weaponry strategically placed around the office. I saved Jim’s life with a can of pepper spray I had velcro’d under my desk. People say, “oh, it’s dangerous to keep weapons in the home or the workplace”. Well I say, “it’s better to be hurt by someone you know accidentally than by a stranger on purpose.”
Counterphobic Sixes can be obsessed with safety, and see danger where there is none. But damn are they prepared when the danger shows up.
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Dwight: I am ready to face any challenges that might be foolish enough to face me.
Counterphobic stance.
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Dwight: [reading his resignation letter] Although I love this company more than almost anything in the world*, I have decided to step down from my post and spend more time with my family. I do not fear the unknown. jI will meet my new challenges head on and I will succeed. And I will laugh in the faces of those who doubt me. It’s been a pleasure working with some of you – and I will not forget those of you soon. But remember, while today it is me…we all shall fall...in other words, I’m quitting.
Emphasis for obvious loyalty/affiliation. What kind of Five loves sales, and is better at it than anyone else in the office? The office is full of failures, but I doubt a Five can out-sell everyone around when the sales are based on cold calls and maintaining friendly customer relations. It's a very public and aggressive position to maintain.
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Dwight: I never let anyone walk behind me, 7 out of 10 attacks are from the rear.
Again, overestimating danger and obsessive focus on staying safe. Six issues.
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Dwight: It is my job to be there for Michael.
This is Duty, one of the core values of type Six.
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Dwight: Pam and Karen! I am ordering you to cease and desist all party planning immediately.
Pam: You can’t do that.
Dwight: As ranking number 3 in this office I am ordering you to…
Andy: Ummm, I’m number 3.
Dwight: You’re number 4.
Andy: Yeah, but I’m number 3.*
Dwight: Uh no. You must turn over to me all Christmas decorations and party paraphernalia immediately that will be returned to you on January 4th.
Jim: Ok, I think I can help here.
Dwight: Ok good, they…
Jim: As ranking number 2 I am starting a committee to determine the validity of the two committees and I am the sole member of the committee. We’ll act on this now.
Dwight: Ok this is stupid.
Jim: Can you please keep it down? I’m in session. [long pause] I’ve determined this committee is valid.
Dwight: No, no, no. Wait. Permission to join the Validity Committee.
Jim: [thinks about it] Permission denied.
Dwight: Dammit!
*this is funny because Andy is a Three.
In the above exchange, Dwight operates from a Compliant triader's perspective. Rules, regulations. When the authority figure above him makes up some rules, Dwight still tries to follow them. And he backs down once that authority figure denies him a position which will influence the rules. Again, the focus on hierachy is not found in many Fives, who are idiosyncratic/loners/iconoclastic.
There's also the episode where he decides Pam and Jim's house is unsafe, so he has a bunch of guys come over to rip out their cabinets and install new ones. What kind of Five would do that?
Edited to fix coding.
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relicquery
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 12:28:45 AM
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Ah, found a more telling quote.
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Dwight: Fear is what it is all about. You cannot sell while undergoing fear. You need to vanquish fear! One must wrestle fear to the ground.
There we have it, the motto of a counterphobic 6w5. |
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Desdemona
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linus
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 4:19:45 PM
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Originally posted by Invicta
Are you trolling?
What hell doess tthat mean??? |
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Invicta
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 9:34:06 PM
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| Sometimes there are some jokesters trolling on this forum, your typings were offbeat enough to make me wonder. |
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linus
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Posted - 12 Jul 2010 : 8:00:18 PM
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Originally posted by Invicta
Sometimes there are some jokesters trolling on this forum, your typings were offbeat enough to make me wonder.
what?? what was offbeat? did u even consider the comment of my post? |
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linus
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Posted - 12 Jul 2010 : 8:04:40 PM
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Originally posted by linus
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Originally posted by Invicta
Sometimes there are some jokesters trolling on this forum, your typings were offbeat enough to make me wonder.
what?? what was offbeat? did u even consider the comment of my post?
i meant content not comment |
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linus
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Posted - 12 Jul 2010 : 8:09:57 PM
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Originally posted by linus
I think pam would be the two and jim a 9. She seems very compliant to me and 2s are the most compliant.
E9s are compliant par excellence - it's unfortunate that R&H's "Compliant Triad" does not reflect this.
[Stormy]
well they're self effacing but its not a reciprical compliance. all the compliant types want something in return, but 9s are just trying to avoid conlict. 2s communicate mainly with their feelings and 9s numb themselves so that it doesn't really matter if its their true feelings or not. |
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