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Lake
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  10:18:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ugh editing on my phone is such a pain...what i meant to say was THANK YOU, savory, for sharing. Its been painful but simultaneously comforting to see someone else talking about what ive been feeling.

tentative typing:
9w1>7w6>2w3
sp/sx
INFP
>_<

Edited by - Lake on 29 Nov 2011 10:20:09 AM
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Lake
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  10:55:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When i broke up with him before, he sent me this song
http://www.elyrics.net/read/d/dido-lyrics/see-you-when-you_re-40-lyrics.html
and said that id see one day that this song was my song to him.

I just remembered this now, and after being back together for 4 years (5 years total), i see that its true. God, now im wallowing....

tentative typing:
9w1>7w6>2w3
sp/sx
INFP
>_<
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S
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  10:56:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit S's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cakes


6w7. "dark" so/sx.

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dfgray44
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  11:35:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit dfgray44's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitelila

dfgray
Jim Kazanjian


Yep, that works. Off-kilter smoldering over-complicated structure with a wary relationship to water.



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Lake
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  11:37:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
***tears and a half smile***

tentative typing:
9w1>7w6>2w3
sp/sx
INFP
>_<
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dusty
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  12:54:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit dusty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
baba, I don't like your image for me at all. I would never expose myself that way. although something tells me I already have

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RobinFalsehood
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  12:58:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit RobinFalsehood's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Walden
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RobinFalsehood
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Gray
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Roshan
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  1:21:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Roshan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
love the tie.
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RobinFalsehood
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Riley
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RobinFalsehood
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Glasgow
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RobinFalsehood
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  1:37:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit RobinFalsehood's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Pork....I couldn't help myself when a 4w3 goes my the nic of Pork..
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Roshan
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  2:01:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Roshan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's okay. You got him. Gets all puffed up and winds up sounding like he's stoned.
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Lake
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  3:04:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
EDIT



haha, wait no...this is me (though nearly all of you don't know it yet )

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Kate
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  3:18:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kate's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitelila

Hi walden, she is too cold, I understand. Lets try some Brian Viveros for your sexy self.
and some Are Mokkelbost for your inner juice.




uh...No. lol. Neither fit at all. Both too hard for one thing.

thanks for thinking of me though! Maybe I'll find something that fits and post it...




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The Wayfarer
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  4:02:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit The Wayfarer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dusty

Wayfarer, do you think boundary issues are common with sp 4s? Can you tell me anything more about your boundary issues?



I think boundary issues are paramount for any self pres type.

For me there are two levels going on. One one end I feel energetically and physically sensitive particularly to other people's energy and the energy of a particular place. So my psychic structure has developed strongly around a tendency to go "up and out" in a schizoid fashion. When people touch me it brings me back into myself and from there I can feel very very raw and have a strong tendency to feel invaded or overwhelmed with other people's energy. Therefore maintaining my boundaries serves that function. It manifests in funny ways like I have a strong sort of fear around stains and rips in carpet and upholstery. I feel like it's representative of my fear of having my energy invaded so if I'm in a room, or area that has it I feel at once aesthetically assaulted and on another level like the stain or whatever is going to "get in" to my space.

On another level I stay pretty insular because my sexual last prevents me from knowing how much energy to allow into the exchange. There's an awkward discomfort around how much is too much (sharing, information, affection, etc), and so I fear I'm going to overwhelm the person with a lot of pent up energy. Katherine Fauvre posited the idea that if we look at the type and stacking as descending throughout the tritype so my type is sp/so/sx 478, then to look at it in that way it would be sp4-so7-sx8, then I would be most uncomfortable with the sexual 8 energy working in my structure. There's a tendency for me to want to really overstep boundaries and completely devour/consume someone/something I'm attracted to, but that instinct is least developed. So I can often feel like a caged animal in a lot of situations where there's something around I want. Particularly with people. I have a tendency to see people/relationships in an objectified kind of way, so my sexual desire functions a lot like a lion looking at meat, so much so that I dissect people into parts when attracted. Knowing this about myself I try and enclose the animalistic urge to consume and you get a caged beast kind of feel that expresses itself internally. However, the cage is self imposed and even when the cage door is open there's a fear of coming out of the confines because I don't know what I'll do if the boundaries aren't maintained and I don't know what others will do to me, so it brings up a lot of issues around vulnerability, and I don't like appearing vulnerable.


The Wayfarer

"Time is a factory where everyone slaves away earning enough love to break their own chains.”-Hafiz


Edited by - The Wayfarer on 29 Nov 2011 4:03:08 PM
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whitelila
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  4:09:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit whitelila's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by walden

quote:
Originally posted by whitelila

Hi walden, she is too cold, I understand. Lets try some Brian Viveros for your sexy self.
and some Are Mokkelbost for your inner juice.




uh...No. lol. Neither fit at all. Both too hard for one thing.

thanks for thinking of me though! Maybe I'll find something that fits and post it...








lol

Well fuck me. I can't seem to find a good one.

how about this?

http://cuseo.com/paintings/

mixed with this?

http://www.adammillerart.com/
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Kate
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  4:52:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kate's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Riley

I'm drawn to this one both for myself and for walden:




Wow. I relate that to that in a very specific (dark place) way...won't go there though.


quote:
Originally posted by whitelila

lol

Well [blocked due to guideline #4 violation] me. I can't seem to find a good one.

how about this?

http://cuseo.com/paintings/

mixed with this?

http://www.adammillerart.com/





Don't relate to the second one much. Too drab. I like the first one, though. I like this one ("Fear")and relate to it:

http://cuseo.com/paintings/fear/


I think the majority of boardies only pick up on my outer shell persona/personality and don't see the underlying softness and profound vulnerability.


A few that fit my instinctual energy:









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savory
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  4:53:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit savory's Homepage  Reply with Quote

So Sturge (sorry I can't help but call you this), does it feel any easier to get your energy out through groups, like teaching or leading classes/seminars? Or is it more that you just have an awareness of the social realm?

My bf's energy comes out more when he's in a group, though he's also a 6w5. But he seems to really enjoy being a part of a small team accomplishing something (like playing bike polo, underwater hockey). Though he still has a loner wolf stance for every other day. Maybe it's that more people can take the spread of his energy better?

Which is why it's interesting to me thinking about the fact that he feels he might overwhelm 'one person' (in a one-on-one situation) with his pent up energy. 'More people' seems to = a better outlet. I never know he has much pent up energy until it comes out.

Cakes - yeah, I feel very tolerated and validated by him. Like you said of yours, he's a rock. But at the same time I don't feel seen at all, like I have a secret life I must indulge to myself in private (private associations, friends who give me what I need) and that there's a bridge that will never be crossed ("come over here, sit by meee!" ::pats on couch cushion:: I actually did that to him once and he looked at me funny and maintained his distance of 6 ft. heh).

No, but he's a good guy. Very sexual/raw/tender, but not in a sx way, if you can picture that (you probably can).



Do you like what you're doing?
Would you do it some more?
Or will you stop once and wonder what you're doing it for?
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Glasgow
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Germany
6253 Posts

Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  5:07:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit Glasgow's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by walden









i like your butt, to be honest

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Kate
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  6:43:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kate's Homepage  Reply with Quote

haha Glasgow's a buttman...kein wunder.



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dboon
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  6:44:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit dboon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Roshan

dboon





interesting.. I see the cotton candy that looks like it's right there, but you can't reach it. I see primary colors, I see expanse. The photo reminds me of one that was taken near Moab, Utah.. something made me take that photo. Those flowers tell a tale..

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dusty
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  8:09:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit dusty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Wayfarer

quote:
Originally posted by dusty

Wayfarer, do you think boundary issues are common with sp 4s? Can you tell me anything more about your boundary issues?



I think boundary issues are paramount for any self pres type.

For me there are two levels going on. One one end I feel energetically and physically sensitive particularly to other people's energy and the energy of a particular place. So my psychic structure has developed strongly around a tendency to go "up and out" in a schizoid fashion. When people touch me it brings me back into myself and from there I can feel very very raw and have a strong tendency to feel invaded or overwhelmed with other people's energy. Therefore maintaining my boundaries serves that function. It manifests in funny ways like I have a strong sort of fear around stains and rips in carpet and upholstery. I feel like it's representative of my fear of having my energy invaded so if I'm in a room, or area that has it I feel at once aesthetically assaulted and on another level like the stain or whatever is going to "get in" to my space.

On another level I stay pretty insular because my sexual last prevents me from knowing how much energy to allow into the exchange. There's an awkward discomfort around how much is too much (sharing, information, affection, etc), and so I fear I'm going to overwhelm the person with a lot of pent up energy. Katherine Fauvre posited the idea that if we look at the type and stacking as descending throughout the tritype so my type is sp/so/sx 478, then to look at it in that way it would be sp4-so7-sx8, then I would be most uncomfortable with the sexual 8 energy working in my structure. There's a tendency for me to want to really overstep boundaries and completely devour/consume someone/something I'm attracted to, but that instinct is least developed. So I can often feel like a caged animal in a lot of situations where there's something around I want. Particularly with people. I have a tendency to see people/relationships in an objectified kind of way, so my sexual desire functions a lot like a lion looking at meat, so much so that I dissect people into parts when attracted. Knowing this about myself I try and enclose the animalistic urge to consume and you get a caged beast kind of feel that expresses itself internally. However, the cage is self imposed and even when the cage door is open there's a fear of coming out of the confines because I don't know what I'll do if the boundaries aren't maintained and I don't know what others will do to me, so it brings up a lot of issues around vulnerability, and I don't like appearing vulnerable.


The Wayfarer

"Time is a factory where everyone slaves away earning enough love to break their own chains.”-Hafiz





Thanks, Wayfarer. You're very insightful and a lot of what you put in your posts is familiar to me. I don't want to say anything more right now. I appreciate your response.
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baba
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  8:59:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit baba's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How I experience my instinctual energy:



Don't walk away..
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Odyssey
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 :  11:43:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Odyssey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ms Saintly and friends

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