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Lake
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 Posted - 27 May 2012 : 10:03:55 PM
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Yanno, the over-arching reason of why I like those pics (for both of us) savory, is the same reason why I like, and feel I relate to, you: b/c *I feel* that you acutely see and feel the tragically absurd struggle that is life--that you care, and that it affects you--but that you are still determined to try and make it all beautiful and worth it somehow.
Sisyphus with an indulgent streak...Sisyphette. 
Anyway, back a bit closer to earth... heh...
I'm touched by those pics b/c you obviously *see* my style and my inner landscape--including the large contrast between light and dark. 
You are right on with my simple, classically feminine style, with a large dollop of passionate, yet dreamy, romance contrasted against an aestheticization of violence, and just a dab of actual, unrefined, animal rawness.
For symbolic reasons, I love that her hair is red in the first pic (hair is one of my *things*, actually...it's pretty much the only "beauty" of mine which i'll fully own. Yeah, I have great hair.  ) , and I like that she is wearing a traditional, black, peacoat. Great juxtaposition with the rest of the pic.
Save the white shirt/dress/bandages on the woman in the 2nd pic, all of the clothing is black. I do wear a lot of black (since I was about 16), and several people have given me a hard time about it. Oh well, I like it. *shrugs*
Although flowing blood makes me faint IRL, and anatomy lab made me want to cry and/or vomit, I really have a sick little festish for that bit of her femur bone showing in the last pic...I can't stop staring at it :-/... and then smiling with half of my mouth at the blue skies, blue water just outside her whirlpool, and the sailboat in the distance. Her body is flattering lol, but that pic is overall straight up ugly truth. I appreciate your bravery in posting it. I can handle it  .
Actually, the second pic was brave of you too, and it is also very true (and somewhat painful). I like that she could put her gun in her inner coat pocket, grab her hat, and button her jacket and look like a normal woman. Where did she come from? Where is she going? Just...yes
I'd say I have quite a bit of 8 in me--that my wings are balanced and/or that I connect to 8 a great deal through my sx 2.
So...yeah...I'd gladly use all 3 of those pics in a collage, and the first 2 pics as wallpaper on my comp.
Again, thank you very much for those  Hope that wasn't too much just there^ on my part heh.
Would you mind if I commented on your photos you posted for yourself? (and/or I'd be interested what you had to say about anything you posted, of course)
*it's not about finding yourself, it's about realizing who you've been all along. |
Edited by - Lake on 27 May 2012 10:59:15 PM |
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savory
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 10:50:28 PM
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No problem, I'm glad they resonated for you so much. :)
I wasn't sure about posting the second one, but there was just something there that captured "vulnerable hardened post-relationship Lake", something about you being wounded but taking back your self under a cloak of bitter strength (a persona I can relate to a lot as well).
And I love the third one because... I don't know, after hearing your voice on the voice thread your personality instantly came together for me and I suddenly knew you had this crazy dramatic side to you that is very comic and tragic at the same time (usually comedy wins out, but you give it a nice dose of woe-is-me-oh-my-GAWDD I'm DYING!!!).
I'd like to hear what you think about mine, etc.
I relate most to the middle one.
It seems difficult somehow to find examples of girls who are cute yet not too cute and who are also bitterly mischievous, self-contained or angry-looking to where it balances out their youthful presentation.
Apparently a few people that I secretly liked in high school etc. thought that I hated them or that I thought they were idiots because I never talked to them and I guess had that perpetual look^ on my face... Actually I think that still continues. Wasn't just a high school thing. :P
"If I wanted to hear mindless droning I'd befriend an air-conditioner." |
Edited by - savory on 27 May 2012 10:55:18 PM |
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Lake
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 11:11:17 PM
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No problem, I'm glad they resonated for you so much. :)
I wasn't sure about posting the second one, but there was just something there that captured "vulnerable hardened post-relationship Lake", something about you being wounded but taking back your self under a cloak of bitter strength (a persona I can relate to a lot as well).
the second pic is my favorite--even more so now.
And I love the third one because... I don't know, after hearing your voice on the voice thread your personality instantly came together for me and I suddenly knew you had this crazy dramatic side to you that is very comic and tragic at the same time (usually comedy wins out, but you give it a nice dose of woe-is-me-oh-my-GAWDD I'm DYING!!!).
LOL for days. yeah, i'm funny, and i'm brave, but i am an overly dramatic baby about emotional suffering. i loathe the seemingly overwhelmingly icky feeling of negative and/or complicated feelings. to me it feels like they have infected me, and intend to kill me.
thus, i have historically suppressed them. this is one reason why sports and physical activity have always been so healing for me--a great outlet.
on another level though i recognize that they are natural and healthy gift, and can give me valuable information about myself, and serve as a guide, and that denying them is to deny myself.
oh, feelings.
how are you with handling 'uncomfortable' emotions?
I'd like to hear what you think about mine, etc.
I relate most to the middle one.
It seems difficult somehow to find examples of girls who are cute yet not too cute and who are also bitterly mischievous, self-contained or angry-looking to where it balances out their youthful presentation.
yeah, that's what i see in your pics. girl, you a woman now though 
you're like an old soul in a youthful body. i bet you'll be one of those women who still looks young even when you're up a bit more in years.
reminds me somewhat of claudia in 'interview with the vampire'.
anyway...
i like that she's treading through water in the second pic. she doesn't look like she likes it though..but she's doing it. what is she after?
the first one reminds me of hermione from harry potter--weathering the storm with her bag of magic tricks. is the storm internal, or external?
the third one i like a lot. it is more vulnerable than the other 2. she has some 'help' however. she's not alone. her skirt looked lizard scale-like on my phone...i didn't know quite what to make of it, and my eyes kept going there. now, on my laptop, i see that they're polka dots. i liked it when they were scales 
i also like the *way* she is holding the iguana--just like i liked the way in which you held your phone in your self-portrait you posted when you put up all those pics of your place. you had your phone in both hands--safe, and secure.
Apparently a few people that I secretly liked in high school etc. thought that I hated them or that I thought they were idiots because I never talked to them and I guess had that perpetual look^ on my face... Actually I think that still continues. Wasn't just a high school thing. :P
heh me too. I've tried to train myself to smile gently, or at least not turn my mouth down, when i'm off in my own little world b/c i've had many people share similar sentiments with me. i've even had two random strangers yell at me "you think you're better than me?!" um, no, sorry, that's just my face. 
i liked what you said in the 'worst paranoid belief' thread about this subject btw. i wanted to add, but didn't quite know what to say. so yeah, there it is
"If I wanted to hear mindless droning I'd befriend an air-conditioner."
*it's not about finding yourself, it's about realizing who you've been all along. |
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savory
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 11:50:58 PM
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LOL for days. yeah, i'm funny, and i'm brave, but i am an overly dramatic baby about emotional suffering. i loathe the seemingly overwhelmingly icky feeling of being emotionally uncomfortable. to me it feels like they infect me, and intend to kill me.
how are you with handling 'uncomfortable' emotions?
Hmm. I don't like when I come undone in front of others, so for most of my life I've just gone to my room to sort myself out. But I guess I can sit with them if I turn them into something that's semi-removed from myself, or into something that I control? If that makes sense... like I can analyze them thematically or feel them dramatically or very intensely, but when it comes to real emotions and real true uncomfortableness it can be a mess. Someone once told me that I write more about my emotional process than just writing "emotionally". So it's a once-removed thing, even though I'm very emotional and people say I'm emotionally honest and "in touch" with my feelings. The only recurring nightmare I've had is of tidal waves and mega tsunami water spout things that threaten to kill me, so I guess that says quite a bit. ;P I'll always think I'll be feeling my real emotions, but then the really real ones come up... and I won't quite know what to do with them.
i like that she's treading through water in the second pic.
you're like an old soul in a youthful body. i bet you'll be one of those women who still looks young even when you're up a bit more in years.
Yeah probably. :) I keep getting better looking as I age so I'm not too worried... (though I'm only almost 27, which is hardly old).
I just had a recent dream where I asked to see one of my power animals and I had a dream about a big seal (one of the earless ones). Which then got me to thinking about selkies (orkney seal people), and that the second picture of mine has that sort of sentiment to it. It's interesting as I used to draw seals all the time for a few years when I was younger, but never thought about it as being a possible power animal.
i liked what you said in the 'worst paranoid belief' thread about this subject btw. i wanted to add, but didn't quite know what to say. so yeah, there it is
Yeah, there's a lot to that subject... mostly how my family dynamic was about me being the pre-christian living among the christians... I never quite realized how much of a witch I felt like. Rather, never quite connected that feeling to that archetype before. It's so potent. I really did feel like I might be burnt at the stake if I didn't keep my beliefs and needs underwraps and secreted away. 
"If I wanted to hear mindless droning I'd befriend an air-conditioner."
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Lake
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 11:54:47 PM
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hey i added a lot more to my last post!
go back, please!
( you don't have to respond, i just wanted you to see it )
*it's not about finding yourself, it's about realizing who you've been all along. |
Edited by - Lake on 27 May 2012 11:58:35 PM |
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savory
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 12:03:28 AM
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I see the second one as the girl emerging from the sea (in a storm), that she's arrived without any parents or having been born from humans. Or else she has no memory of them, or has escaped them.
Lol, I wish my camera were a phone... ! ;)
My phone is a nokia 1112. o__O heh
(god I really am an unintentional hipster...  )
"If I wanted to hear mindless droning I'd befriend an air-conditioner." |
Edited by - savory on 28 May 2012 12:04:55 AM |
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Lake
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 12:14:59 AM
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hipster seal (er...sea lion  )
*it's not about finding yourself, it's about realizing who you've been all along. |
Edited by - Lake on 28 May 2012 04:05:51 AM |
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savory
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 12:16:28 AM
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LOL. got it.
"If I wanted to hear mindless droning I'd befriend an air-conditioner." |
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Lake
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 04:08:59 AM
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i'm a brat sometimes, i know.
being a hipster isn't a bad thing in my book, though.
*it's not about finding yourself, it's about realizing who you've been all along. |
Edited by - Lake on 28 May 2012 04:09:42 AM |
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dfgray44
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 11:50:22 AM
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I can see a few savory-me aspects in these aron wiesenfelds
  
"If I wanted to hear mindless droning I'd befriend an air-conditioner."
Very sp/sx 1w9/9w1. Mainly lacking the particular pretense or filigree of 4.
Determination, conviction, solid/calcified 'knowing', firm, obstinate, stubborn.
Idealistic self-image around self-sufficiency/autonomy. Attitude that braces itself against the onslaught of the elements (the attitude, itself, also being 'big-block/chunky' elemental). A fixed inner self-composition/construct that withstands centuries of weathering.
Notable notes of 'prim & proper'. And that particular band of earth tones (and the way the primary colors are muted/ashen) is way up inside 1w9/9w1 World.
Shrouded light and a presumption of solitariness (sp/sx + 4 fix). Attractive by what's unsaid. An aloof self-composed mystery object....like a cat, or the exclusive high aesthetic of cold silence emitted by a crocodile.
It is very savory.
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savory
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 8:15:48 PM
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Thanks for your analysis df.
Now shoo.
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MH
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Posted - 29 May 2012 : 12:02:19 AM
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| really like the last picture on multiple levels. Great artist. Alot is communicated |
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Glasgow
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 08:20:47 AM
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and in addition to that the girl with the extravagant blue dress standing in the cold water , demonstratively looking in the other direction,
reminds of the motto , independence creates loneliness. she also shows a kind of strength bearing her destiny, standing straight and in upright position, staunch , steady and also rectitudinous. and a kind of innocent and natural, besides dreamy, edgy , peculiar and aloof, reserved vibe, dusty.
also it reminds me of the the question if this has only to do with how one deals with the irritation that this otherness confronts me with: whether i endure and withstand it, and integrate this experience into my identity, or whether i respond to the process of being called into question by the other with the defensive reaction of exclusion and the erection of walls and bodies of rules that prevent the other from approaching me, to come close to me.
a special mixture somehow. 4w5->1.
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dboon
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 09:17:39 AM
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and the girl with the extravagant blue dress standing in the cold water reminds of the motto , independence creates loneliness.
to be lonely is to be free? thats a recent quote... savory never gives me the impression that she is actually lonely. |
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Glasgow
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 09:19:19 AM
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and the girl with the extravagant blue dress standing in the cold water reminds of the motto , independence creates loneliness.
to be lonely is to be free? thats a recent quote... savory never gives me the impression that she is actually lonely.
savory? i'm talking to dusty about dusty about my chosen pic for her.
again you're putting in your two cents without having a clue what it is going to be about, yogurtlidlicker.
last warning !
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dboon
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 09:23:25 AM
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and the girl with the extravagant blue dress standing in the cold water reminds of the motto , independence creates loneliness.
to be lonely is to be free? thats a recent quote... savory never gives me the impression that she is actually lonely.
savory? i'm talking to dusty about dusty about my chosen pic for her,
yogurtlidlicker.
she ain't lonely either..
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Glasgow
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 09:25:36 AM
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she ain't lonely either..
no, she only said it on this board several times.
understand?
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dboon
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 09:41:17 AM
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eh, people say lots of things.. don't tell me you're taking it at face value?
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dboon
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 11:00:38 AM
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| Dusty, are you lonely? I could be wrong.. and maybe I am.. but this guy is saying you're lonely. |
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 4:09:51 PM
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and in addition to that the girl with the extravagant blue dress standing in the cold water , demonstratively looking in the other direction,
reminds of the motto , independence creates loneliness. she also shows a kind of strength bearing her destiny, standing straight and in upright position, staunch , steady and also rectitudinous. and a kind of innocent and natural, besides dreamy, edgy , peculiar and aloof, reserved vibe, dusty.
also it reminds me of the the question if this has only to do with how one deals with the irritation that this otherness confronts me with: whether i endure and withstand it, and integrate this experience into my identity, or whether i respond to the process of being called into question by the other with the defensive reaction of exclusion and the erection of walls and bodies of rules that prevent the other from approaching me, to come close to me.
a special mixture somehow. 4w5->1.
Thanks, Glasgow. I think my staunch vibe may be an sp thing, or an sp 4 thing. Same thing with what dfgray was talking about with savory (interestingly the picture you posted for me is quite similar to the ones savory posted for herself). |
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Glasgow
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 4:26:38 PM
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yeah , i've meant especially sp4 e.g. the strength of withstanding . plus your code word " boundary issues".
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dboon
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 5:28:49 PM
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and the girl with the extravagant blue dress standing in the cold water reminds of the motto , independence creates loneliness.
to be lonely is to be free? thats a recent quote... savory never gives me the impression that she is actually lonely.
savory? i'm talking to dusty about dusty about my chosen pic for her.
again you're putting in your two cents without having a clue what it is going to be about, yogurtlidlicker.
last warning !
I like the dramatic value of your edited post. There's this showdown quality about it, like.. were I to get sloppy, I could really mess things up for myself around here, and my reputation.. on tha EIDB. |
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mystery2me
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 5:33:33 PM
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| Sorry to be the one to break the news to you, but your reputation on the EIDB, is actually quite meaningless. |
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dboon
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 : 5:46:21 PM
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It's ok, I haven't been taking things seriously here for a long time now.
oh wait.. I think I just got what you said.  hah oh yeah. |
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