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dnimon
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 Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 01:49:47 AM
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I need volunteers from the list below in order to test my profiling method, so far i have done all my friends and it seems spot on; still confirmation bias plays a part, so before i use the system at work, rather than the point of manifestation profiling i was doing, i'd like to test it and hopefully refine my thinking on the types furthest removed from mine, at the same time, improve my groking of how these influences translate.
So if anyone would like to put up their dob, i'll try and work through them, though
i cant promise that i will get through everyone, but i'll try to work through them all over time
I just need the DOB ( I only need the day and month ), we can do it privately if preferred, thanks in advance 
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 03:43:17 AM
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Originally posted by magochre
Ok. 28th March
would you like me to put the results up here, publicly?
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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Abi
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 03:57:48 AM
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You can use me,(January 2)- altho, since we've known each other a long time here, using some of the others might give you fresher information for your method.
I could be a fallback in case you don't get your 5th.
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 04:52:18 AM
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Okay mag
The first tier, the canvas you manifest on, is the influence ofthe compulsive/impulsive act and this manifests in a few usual ways, depending on the overlaying influences, it can be mental, in which case the person is continuously thinking and working at the object of their attention, it may be driven by a need for worldly achievement, or it might be magnified in a way in which the person expends very focused energy at short bursts, becomes drained, disillusioned and moves from one thing to another as an endless progression, and these types are often scattered as well, there are none different permutations of how this background canvas influence is modified.
You fall on the magnified effect, influence on the second tier, while on the third tier you fall under the influence of "dispassionately pondered thought, the capacity if you like to intellectually turn a problem, idea or another object of your attention, to appreciate that the same thing has many dimensions and can be looked at validly from many different points of view. This influence also brings a tenacity of focus, and a cool detachment, and it is likely that people who don't know you well, get a sense of conservatism at the same time.
It usually brings endurance as well, because the impulsive/compulsive influence has a target. You fall under these three influences at your manifestation point.
The next point of your inner triad is the manifestation point of your actions, it refers to what you do and how you you do it. The influence here is "the emotionally impulsive/compulsive act", the tendency here is to react according to your transient feelings at the time. On impulse you can act awfully or nicely, while remaining uconscious of the effect this has on people wondering why people have some problem with what you say/how you react. The effect is magnified and of a mental character...it seems a point of conflict to me.
The third point of your inner triad refers to how your feelings manifest; the influence here is "the intellectually considered act. You project your emotional side with care and consideration, the usual tendencies here translate at graciousness, generosity, patience, empathy, you both feel obliged to behave along these lines, and since it is a self feeding mechanism you enjoy to, a sense of emotional dignity is carried withthis arrangement, so that you feel horrified if you are not well received in the way your feelings manifest.
Around the circuit, the three aspects of your actions are
intellectually pragmatic organization, compulsively/impulsively
emotional identification with with what you do, based on your thinking
the capacity to dispassionately see al sides of the actions you take based on your thinking.
Needless to say there are quite big inner clashes here; i would expect them to play out something like this, you follow your initial impulse, but think carefully about all that this entails; you apply yourself with great emotional energy, but if someone points out how what you're doing can be done better, you consider it objectively and are quite willing to change things.
Your emotional aspects, ill just give a rough translation here rather than list the three influences, as that is how they went down as i typed; you are touched by existential anxiety, you are emotionally insecure and seek always to do the right thing, that it is seen you are acting well emotionally, so we wouldn't expect you to blow up often, and we would expect you to take full responsibility when you did, ~ anger is your emotional reaction form though, rather than sulking or the other type reaction manifestations
Your emotions play out in the sphere of existential thought, which brings you a sensitivity about, how it is for others, an ability to empathise with existential problems, you consider things carefully.
You're emotionally pragmatic, you decide on the most practical emotional attitude and stick to it
Collecctively you fall under 9 influences and your inner conflicts revolve around those dissonant influences detailed above.
............feedback appreciated.
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 05:03:20 AM
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thanks abs; this kind of profiling is completely new to me, previously i only used the manifestation point you're reasonably private,or you seem that way to me, regarding disclosures of your inner psychic.private life, that's one of the reasons i chose you, but its true i do know you better than most. I'd like to get these out of the way pretty quickly and i have time for the next 8 hours , so i might yet end up "doing you", so to speak.
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 06:23:51 AM
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Abi,
your point of manifestation, the canvas that your your other influences is "existential emotion", which usually translates as existential anxiety, the key descriptive term which first comes to my mind about this influence. The key ideas associated with this influence, is that the world is a fraught and unpredictable place, people are fraught and unpredictable.
This usually plays out as social anxiety, the need for a secure personal space, the home is often the sacred place, where those under this influence can control, at least, this part of life, and make it to their liking. All subtypes falling under these influences don't like surprises, and don't like feeling obliged to drop what they are doing if unexpected visitors arrive, for instance. Another key idea is preparedness, this influence usually translates, that before facing the world or people, one needs time to psycho emotionally prepare.
The second tier influence for you falls under the influence of "the considered act", that is you project an idealized version of yourself publicly and tend to embody the ideal over time so the act is assimilated into your psyche, this makes it all the more imperative that you have time to prepare yourself, the third tier influence overlaying this is impulsive/compulsiveness, and actually compulsive is the closer of these ideas, same with mag; this influence brings you energy and persistence and focus, though on the next level again, this focus moves from one thing to another. so you are inclined to be consumed by one thing and compulsively persist, then something else amongst the enduring interests.
At the second point of the triad, the idea here is existential thought, and it often happens that those born under this influence take an active interest in psychology or philosophy, or are naturally inclined to direct mental activity towards that pursuit It is important for you to be seen in a good light, incompetence, losing face is a body blow to you, again feeding the alone time aspect of this influence, the dislike of surprises. Very often this influence brings with it concern for the actual physical appearance, ie aesthetic, you like to look your best, and take some time making sure you do.
On the third point of this triad, now your feelings manifest, they manifest in the act, what you do for people, in your work, in your physical actions, what you create for people, you embody the idealized idea of how you can best express your feelings in what you do and the recognition of this brings you the emotional feeding mechanism, you do it because it is appreciated and because it is appreciated you do it.
Around the circuit, what you do, the triad of how the act manifests falls under these influence,
"to do as you feel to do", again strong disinclination to feeling obliged to fulfilling the unexpected agendas of others when u are doing something. modified by a strong obsessive compulsive influence.
"To project and embody your idealized self in regard to what you do, to act with heightened awareness of "how you come off looking" as a result of your actions
And the third point is a strong obsessive compulsive influence, as it occurs on all three levels, so you get fixated, you consume all your energies with intent focus on something and this the combination of these influences, which give further detail on your doing manifestation point quite clearly suggests that you are a person who has a few long term passionate interests punctuated by short term passionate interests and that these interchange,
The emotional triad qualifiers
You become emotionally identified with idea, you do things according to how you feel, and then with full emotional involvement
You are able to assimilate and understand different emotional predispositions and perspectives on the same subject
your feelings are organized, there is a conflicting tendency carried by this influence which appears throughout your emotional circuit, to inadvertently get a negative reaction from people without having any clue as to why,, and to be mystified/annoyed by this
Collectively you fall under 9 influences (heh, how about that you fall under 9 out of 12 influences 3/4, i wonder if everyone does...i'll have to check); there's around ten pages i should write for these profiles, so this is just the bare nuts and bolts of it
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 08:35:33 AM
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super duper magochre, thanks so much.........part of the reason i chose you is that i dont know you from a bar of chocolate...hahah....
quote:The first tier, the canvas you manifest on, is the influence ofthe compulsive/impulsive act and this manifests in a few usual ways, depending on the overlaying influences, it can be mental, in which case the person is continuously thinking and working at the object of their attention, it may be driven by a need for worldly achievement, or it might be magnified in a way in which the person expends very focused energy at short bursts, becomes drained, disillusioned and moves from one thing to another as an endless progression, and these types are often scattered as well, there are none different permutations of how this background canvas influence is modified.
When I'm interested in something this is very true. Worldly achievement is not a strong driving force though. It arises more in personal interests / concerns.
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yep...that fine, worldly achievement bias was one of three influences that fall under this background canvas.........it does not apply to your position, (yours, as i mention later, is magnified influence obviously the way i framed it above lacked clarity.
can i give it to you in a pithy sentence.....lol...maybe if i thought about it for a week. I was writing three page profiles just on the manifestation point, if i were to do the same with the other 8 points it would take 27 pages....lol.... you know brevity is not my long suit....so to do it in less than a page was as short as i can make it
i don't do short and pithy anyway, poor effort reward ratio..a seconds laughter for a weeks work.....lol
quote:Needless to say there are quite big inner clashes here; i would expect them to play out something like this, you follow your initial impulse, but think carefully about all that this entails; you apply yourself with great emotional energy, but if someone points out how what you're doing can be done better, you consider it objectively and are quite willing to change things.
True, apart from the 'considering it objectively' bit. I'll tend to be emotionally invested at some level so while I'll listen, hear and act accordingly it will often initially be against a backdrop of hurt until I pull myself together and distance myself. I'll arrive at objectivity but getting to it is a process for me,
yes, certainly a process, the thing is though that you do this process, most other types dont...very good
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 08:51:52 AM
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that was the thing that got me too mags, when i did myself i found stuff that i had not noticed before, at first, i was pretty omg no...but its true, then after owning it i felt a big burden come off me......i felt freer to express myself without anxiety
To answer your question, the system is one of psychological essential type from which todays very partial and fragmented system of astrology has been constructed, without the exact knowledge of the nature of our psychological influences or what these divisions represented, it is also missing two layers of finer divisions. In modern astrology only the 12 partitioned structure is accurate, the rest is a combination of empirical observation, imagination and construction
the enneagram symbol fits optically with astonishing precision onto this psychological template which details 100's of different combinations, the problem for me was that up until four or five days ago, i didnt know how to actually more than 1 few percent of it....thanks again
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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sunny
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 09:13:15 AM
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9-19 for me.
...and what's your birthday dnimon?
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 09:36:42 AM
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Originally posted by magochre
Thanks Dnimon, I was hoping against hope for pithy [:).
Apart from the ego based self-fascination, I find this genuinely helpful. I get very stuck and circular with the E because it's based on us predominantly acting out of one passion or fixation. This kind of process is more helpful to me at the moment.
ta....if you pay me lots of money i'll do the full 27 pages for you
i think the problem with the enneagram system is that it is too indefinite, it could be type/wing/stacking/int dis lines, it could be the myriad of subtle triadic layers and strata, the doctor talks about and it all depends on self assessment, which in turns depends on the scope of self knowledge and the ability to reflect and own..........and all of this depends on how accurate the ideas attached to various points are, in relation to the individual.
The enneagram system is certainly a construction, but that doesn't make it useless, on the contrary it is very useful and within the meaning making model, many things fit. It also does a number of things right. The idea of triadic arrangement is right, the idea that we all fall under 9 influences is right (but 9 out of 12, which overlay each other, so that really we fall under 9 out of several hundred combinations) the idea of three core points is correct. In each regard the ideas, like the symbol itself, were taken from gurdjieffs ideology and adapted arbitrarily to work within the model
I'm doing three others offline at the moment, so we'll see how my times goes tonite.
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 09:52:19 AM
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9-19 for me.
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might struggle to get it in tonite jol, my dob is 1/sept/59....but already this makes us quite different......your's immediately, is another obsessive type of quite different character again, including amongst other significant things , off the top of my head, an influence which compels you to existential thought....and inevitably meaning and spirituality.....and i wouldnt have picked that at all, from the little i have read of you....but given even this, i would guess you would be tempted to self type as a six in the etypes system?~ edit maybe a 6w5?
~edit again....some of the subtypes of virgo, capricorn, taurus as well as leo, cancer and aquarius would be tempted to self type as 6w5 or 5 within this model
~and again......thats the problem with the system, its not specific enough, because if that is so,i also type as a 6w5 in this system,and we are quite different, i posted my profile info on the dnimons enneagram thread |
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ganglion
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:07:30 AM
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sunny
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:10:41 AM
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Originally posted by dnimon
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9-19 for me.
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might struggle to get it in tonite jol,
I didn't even know there was something coming back to me on this and thought I was just giving my dob for research, so...no worries.
my dob is 1/sept/59....but already this makes us quite different......
Yes, I'd agree we see things very differently. In fact I could see it clearly when I looked at the astrology for the day you were born. I have a Pisces asc, and you were born during a Virgo/Leo stellium, making what you're about opposite of my personality. Also, Mars was at about 26-7 degrees that day, making it right on the sun in my chart. That aspect that can lead to a battle of egos.
your's immediately, is another obsessive type
I'm definitely an obsessive person.
of quite different character again, including amongst other significant things , off the top of my head, an influence which compels you to existential thought....and inevitably meaning and spirituality.....
all true.
and i wouldnt have picked that at all, from the little i have read of you....
I come here to escape that part of myself...to play and to work on my social lastness.
but given even this, i would guess you would be tempted to self type as a six in the etypes system?~ edit maybe a 6w5?
Interesting that 6/5 was ganglion's typing of me using his system. Maybe the Pisces influence changed me at the time of birth from a 6 to a 9. Might be interesting if ganglion included the influence of the asc in his calculations.
~edit again....some of the subtypes of virgo, capricorn, taurus as well as leo, cancer and aquarius would be tempted to self type as 6w5 or 5 within this model
~and again......thats the problem with the system, its not specific enough, because if that is so,i also type as a 6w5 in this system,and we are quite different, i posted my profile info on the dnimons enneagram thread
Are you willing to share your place/time of birth?
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dfgray44
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:19:28 AM
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:22:40 AM
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actually mag, i would just like to highlight another couple of things, you mentioned them, but in my banging this out very quickly i did not.but maybe i can clarify a few things for you, this is, as you pointed out a very emotionally charged position, and passion features highly....you become impassioned easily and powerfully , but the beauty of your arrangement is that you liste, and really listen to different points of view, and when it appears that your impassioned state is misplaced , you quickly embrace a different understanding (and can easily become just as impassioned with that.
the other point is your empathy, i would expect you to come across as very empathic, and for those close to you to comment on this and appreciate it, but actually, and i need to tread carefully here, you are profoundly "affected" and you sympathize deeply, but you dont really empathize this may take some time to see, you deeply sympathize but have difficulty placing yourself in the shoes of another, especially one with discordant views.
Afterwards when you have a new point of view which gives you another viewpoint, then, you can sympathize and become impassioned, though perhaps only ephemerally again. Empathy is tertiary for you, deep sympathy and emotional affect is first, new point of view second, empathy third, but even this third stage empathy in your process is much more likely to be deep emotional affect and sympathy masquerading very convincingly as empathy...this is likely to take some time to see clearly.
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:28:10 AM
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Originally posted by JoL
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Originally posted by dnimon
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Originally posted by JoL
9-19 for me.
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might struggle to get it in tonite jol,
I didn't even know there was something coming back to me on this and thought I was just giving my dob for research, so...no worries.
my dob is 1/sept/59....but already this makes us quite different......
Yes, I'd agree we see things very differently. In fact I could see it clearly when I looked at the astrology for the day you were born. I have a Pisces asc, and you were born during a Virgo/Leo stellium, making what you're about opposite of my personality. Also, Mars was at about 26-7 degrees that day, making it right on the sun in my chart. That aspect that can lead to a battle of egos.
your's immediately, is another obsessive type
I'm definitely an obsessive person.
of quite different character again, including amongst other significant things , off the top of my head, an influence which compels you to existential thought....and inevitably meaning and spirituality.....
all true.
and i wouldnt have picked that at all, from the little i have read of you....
I come here to escape that part of myself...to play and to work on my social lastness.
but given even this, i would guess you would be tempted to self type as a six in the etypes system?~ edit maybe a 6w5?
Interesting that 6/5 was ganglion's typing of me using his system. Maybe the Pisces influence changed me at the time of birth from a 6 to a 9. Might be interesting if ganglion included the influence of the asc in his calculations.
~edit again....some of the subtypes of virgo, capricorn, taurus as well as leo, cancer and aquarius would be tempted to self type as 6w5 or 5 within this model
~and again......thats the problem with the system, its not specific enough, because if that is so,i also type as a 6w5 in this system,and we are quite different, i posted my profile info on the dnimons enneagram thread
Are you willing to share your place/time of birth?
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sure, i was born in warrnambool in the early hours of the morning, mum cant remember exactly when, scorpio ascendant i think......the best reading i have had , by a long way was about 60%, mostly people get about 30 to 40%
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:39:17 AM
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Yes, I'd agree we see things very differently. In fact I could see it clearly when I looked at the astrology for the day you were born. I have a Pisces asc, and you were born during a Virgo/Leo stellium, making what you're about opposite of my personality. Also, Mars was at about 26-7 degrees that day, making it right on the sun in my chart. That aspect that can lead to a battle of egos.
virgo/leo/cancer actually, and i split leo and cancer, but regular astrology cant pick this up and is also unclear about how the 12 divisions they know about fundamentally differ (referring to external behaviors mostly, and being unaware of three very distinct divisions and characters of type within each house......... so the many inaccuracies are due to this in the main....the planetary alignment/influence material is not something i can comment on, they may provide adjunctive information, so i wouldnt immediately discount or accept these descriptions, it's just not my field. i use a fixed psychological influence template , where the layers of meaning and process's are defined by the enneagram.
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:45:08 AM
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Yes, I'd agree we see things very differently. In fact I could see it clearly when I looked at the astrology for the day you were born. I have a Pisces asc, and you were born during a Virgo/Leo stellium, making what you're about opposite of my personality. Also, Mars was at about 26-7 degrees that day, making it right on the sun in my chart. That aspect that can lead to a battle of egos.
pisces, just looking quickly at my template quickly, i'm too shagged to do much more tonite, pisces manifests in your emotional triad quite strongly, but then the meaning of pisces according to contemporary astrology is vague and indefinite, because it doent know how any of these divisions are based, though they do include a number of related external behavioral observations.
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 11:59:15 AM
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 12:08:11 PM
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I'm heading off to work soon. I'll take it with me and post feedback tonight (tomorrow for you  )
Something I find confusing about your method is it's hard (for me at least) to discern between
1) what part of your method is structural (in a general sense)
2) what part is an individual trait under a structural heading
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, the individual trait influences follow a precise order as a continuum through all three layers, so the individual influences are embedded in the structural sequence. This means that the profiling cannot include intentionally arbitrary subjective ideas, the three layers at a point carry specific influences which moderate the underlying influences.
1/the influence canvas upon which you manifest 12 possibilities)
2/how you manifest on this canvas (3 possibilities)
3/the nature of how you manifest (3 possibilities)
the entire flow throughout these layers runs in a continuous circuit yod, he vau, he.yod he vau he/yod he vau he/yod etc. the enneagram parses out which combinations of influences apply to you from across the entire type template, so that many influences which do not belong to your dob, manifestation point also play a part, the total combined influences do amount to nine, but they are recombine in very different ways, three at each point while referring to 3 different aspects of the psyche.
sounds harder and more complex than what it is, and probably looks harder and more complex than what it is
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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Desdemona
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Sept. 20, but my astrological stuff doesn't usually fit so well. I'm supposed to be really good with money, for example, and nothing could be farther from the truth. All of my adult life I've been broke, and usually living above my means. There are other things, that's just one really obvious one. I'm supposed to be super conservative, and that's a big NO too. Def. not a neat freak or big on strict organization either. Put me in your system if you dare. 
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 12:33:59 PM
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Originally posted by Desdemona
Sept. 20, but my astrological stuff doesn't usually fit so well. I'm supposed to be really good with money, for example, and nothing could be farther from the truth. All of my adult life I've been broke, and usually living above my means. There are other things, that's just one really obvious one. I'm supposed to be super conservative, and that's a big NO too. Def. not a neat freak or big on strict organization either. Put me in your system if you dare.
7w6 Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Idiosyncratic Style
what a difference a day makes...haha...you belong to what the chinese refer to as the 36 maleficent signs or star arrangements.....you double split everything which makes you more complex by far, than say jol and it gives you more influence translation possibilities.....you would have to be awkward des........i'll save you for when i'm fresh, in the meaan time concentrate on your chess.... you're in trouble with this one...hehe
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 1:18:00 PM
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Originally posted by dnimon
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Originally posted by Desdemona
Sept. 20, but my astrological stuff doesn't usually fit so well. I'm supposed to be really good with money, for example, and nothing could be farther from the truth. All of my adult life I've been broke, and usually living above my means. There are other things, that's just one really obvious one. I'm supposed to be super conservative, and that's a big NO too. Def. not a neat freak or big on strict organization either. Put me in your system if you dare.
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Dramatic/Mercurial/Idiosyncratic Style
what a difference a day makes...haha...you belong to what the chinese refer to as the 36 maleficent signs or star arrangements.....you double split everything which makes you more complex by far, than say jol
I see you used this opportunity to insult me. That was mean...not that I think you'd care how I feel about the implication that I'm so "simple".
Don't bother posting anything about my d.o.b. I can't see any good that would come of that, and I won't be checking back anyway.
and it gives you more influence translation possibilities.....you would have to be awkward des........i'll save you for when i'm fresh, in the meaan time concentrate on your chess.... you're in trouble with this one...hehe
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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mystery2me
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 1:35:58 PM
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| Hmm, must be your turn on the go round then Jol. Its not like you have been innocent : ) |
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 8:24:08 PM
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jol, you completely misread me, des is more complex to profile because she falls under twice as many influences at each point,even though you're only a day apart i wasn't taking a dig at your intelligence whatsoever........why would i insult you, while you're helping me out?.........besides, i just finished saying that your canvas influence is deep existential thought?.
It seems i do have a talent for peeing people off.
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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dnimon
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 8:57:45 PM
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thanks Mags, it must be difficult for you to hide your emotional affectation, traditionally with these influences, your emotions manifest loudly in your body language, face and vibe, so that even when you really try to hide it, people who know you will say almost immediately...what's wrong?
Often there are issues with feeling gagged under these influences as well, like there is so much you want to speak, but that your are unable/afraid to do so/blocked.
...once again.thanks
"It's okay to lose your pride over someone you love, but don't lose the one you love due to your pride."
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