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.ron4
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 Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 03:37:15 AM
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Originally posted by AstralScream
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Originally posted by .ron4
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I'm comfortable in the sense that I don't really give a fig whether someone likes me or approves, but I am very tense online in how I'm obsessed with refreshing the page and can't just relax and leave it. I'm either so involved everything goes to the wayside or I need to get out so I can go obsess over something else.
It's very strange, come to think of it. I'll sift through the archives if nothing's going on; don't know what I'm digging for exactly. It's a misplaced something or other.
She is chained to the tremor
of a never arriving rhythm;
she has a heart of silver
and a dagger in her right hand - Federico García Lorca
well , maybe you could turn it around and see what it is
that you know you're not looking for for starters.
Ask yourself for at least three different things and assess.
"If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change".
Have an inkling that to get anywhere with that I'll have to do it in a different chair 
lovely poetic verse you wrote about me btw. left me speechless.
She is chained to the tremor
of a never arriving rhythm;
she has a heart of silver
and a dagger in her right hand - Federico García Lorca
Yes , get comfy, the answers might take a while
and glad you like the verses.
.ron4
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Desdemona
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 09:55:29 AM
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Originally posted by BADMAN
if anybody here has information pertaining to the identity of this informer (s) email me...all correspondence shall remain confidential).
I would think maybe the mods saw your posts on it themselves. They read the board, don't they? I mean, they do pop up from time to time.
7w6cp Sx/sp
ENFP
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BADMAN
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Desdemona
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 8:27:59 PM
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Originally posted by BADMAN
that's not been my impression, desdemona , even though am rather sure the informer is not you...
Sure as hell it's not me. I've never "informed" on anyone, but if I did, I'd just say, "HEY, I did it! That was ME! And you're WELCOME!  "
But why assume someone told on you, when the mods are right here on the board, and do sometimes step in during discussions. Why would they even need to be told?
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in light of sing's post obviously there may be a few who want me off this board so will try to get me on warnings...like they tried to get Capone on tax evasion LOL...they despise my viewpoints on here since i provoke thinking considered malign by those who don't agree with it...
I don't know that anybody at all wants you off the board.
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truth is it was her and others that ripped off my multiple fixation theory on ediots and started calling it trifix. LOL
That was your idea? Weren't people talking about it here on the EIDB (as "trifix") long before typewatch existed? I have no idea who came up with it, but I know the idea has been around a long time.
7w6cp Sx/sp
ENFP
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.ron4
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 8:44:12 PM
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I don't know, maybe all men are bisexual, personally
I've not spent enough time in prison to find out.
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Kate
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 11:24:08 PM
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Originally posted by .ron4
I don't know, maybe all men are bisexual, personally
I've not spent enough time in prison to find out.
"If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change".
Are you bi-curious, Ron?
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.ron4
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 11:43:47 PM
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Originally posted by walden
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Originally posted by .ron4
I don't know, maybe all men are bisexual, personally
I've not spent enough time in prison to find out.
"If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change".
Are you bi-curious, Ron?
maybe statistically but if one has to have sex
with someone to know them fully then it's not to
be for me.
I'll settle for a hug and call it good.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, or is there?
You know once you've done something you can't undo it.
.ron4
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Kate
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 11:58:55 PM
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Originally posted by .ron4
You know once you've done something you can't undo it.
Does that cause you concern? Not being able to undo it?
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.ron4
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Posted - 28 Jan 2012 : 12:37:56 AM
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Originally posted by walden
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Originally posted by .ron4
You know once you've done something you can't undo it.
Does that cause you concern? Not being able to undo it?
No, it's just something I've learned about myself
thinking that I can do anything and there not be
any lasting effects or consequences, nothing to do
with sex, just in general.
Know what I mean ?
.ron4
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Galen
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Posted - 28 Jan 2012 : 01:24:09 AM
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Originally posted by .ron4
I don't know, maybe all men are bisexual, personally
I've not spent enough time in prison to find out.
"If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change".
Sounds like the words of a repressed homosexual who's trying to justify his sexuality by projecting his desires onto other people because he doesn't want to feel as alone as he really is.
or not. we may never know for sure
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And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl |
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.ron4
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Posted - 28 Jan 2012 : 01:28:40 AM
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Originally posted by Galen
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Originally posted by .ron4
I don't know, maybe all men are bisexual, personally
I've not spent enough time in prison to find out.
"If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change".
Sounds like the words of a repressed homosexual who's trying to justify his sexuality by projecting his desires onto other people because he doesn't want to feel as alone as he really is.
or not. we may never know for sure
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And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl
Uh huh, I'm gonna let you think that all night long honey.
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Galen
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Posted - 28 Jan 2012 : 02:11:51 AM
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[i]Originally posted by .ron4
Uh huh, I'm gonna let you think that all night long honey.
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.ron4
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Posted - 28 Jan 2012 : 02:26:32 AM
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Originally posted by Galen
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Originally posted by .ron4
Uh huh, I'm gonna let you think that all night long honey.
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[i]And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl
You're just a big tease aren't you.
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katey
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 : 5:52:27 PM
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Hello everyone, I'm brand new here. Well, kinda. Been reading around the boards a bit while researching my type. I'd like some help in finding it please.
I think I have a fairly good idea of my tritype and stacking, but am unsure as to my core type. I had a VERY comfortable, loving and harmonious childhood, so I guess back then I was probably at my healthiest, and at that point I acted exactly like an integrated 8. Not so much now, but I don't act like a healthy or average or unhealthy 8, either, even though when I assess my core motivations I seem to have the 8-fixation, I just don't seem to act on it in typical 8-like fashion.
I've got a lot of male energy in me, but I'm all woman. I believe I am sx/sp but could be the other way around.
I have no secrets and, if the feelings of no one else are involved, I have the courage to always give my most forthright answer. So please ask me what you like - so long as it helps reveal my type, I'm game.
I don't wish to be a member of your group, but I would like a lifetime guestpass.
My heart is warm with the friends I make, and better friends I'll not be knowing. Yet there isn't a train I wouldn't take, no matter where it's going. - Edna St Vincent Millay |
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relicquery
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 : 6:59:18 PM
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katey
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 : 8:24:11 PM
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I'm not very good at showing not telling. Here's my attempt, and I think it is more telling, but...hope it's enough to go on.
Metaphysical boundaries are an issue with me. In that I don't want them to exist. I want to expand and expand until I am incorporating the world and only then will I relax and feel like I am truly without fear - when everything is in union again, like we were before the universe exploded. I feel a terrible yearning to climb back into the core, and am angry that that isn't possible, that I'm stuck in this silly limited, separate body, so the next best thing is to try to clamber into someone else's core with the aim of having as close to a symbiotic relationship as is possible in physical form. But I hold back these urges, knowing that they are not very acceptable, that they are dominating and forceful and aggressive and that most people do not see that the force behind them is one of purity, of needing unconditional love. And so I compromise by trying to find people who want the same thing, pushing at each other's boundaries more and more until things get so intense that one of us inevitably pulls away, if not for good, then temporarily. This has happened a few times with various men. Always men, so far anyway, maybe because I haven't met a woman yet who I feel is psychologically strong enough to do this with. It can sometimes feel very sexual and lusty, but I'm pretty sure that's just a physical manifestation of the ego desire - I don't ACTUALLY (generally) want a sexual relationship with the guys I have had this sort of relationship with. Keeping sex out of it actually ramps up the intensity level.
Everyone else's boundaries are respected, but I have to constantly check in to make sure I am not overstepping them, because my own sense of that is lacking. I get very frustrated when people don't open up to me, when they keep secrets, I want to know everything there is to know about people that I am close to so that I can feel in control of the relationship, that they can't do anything dishonest that I can't see through. I see every interaction as a social and psychological duel but I don't want it to be that way because it exhausts me. I want everybody to be totally truthful, all of the time, including me. Because they aren't and I can't expect that, the social scene makes me weary and I end up most of the time just making myself a mirror, adapting to their energy, making them like me so that I have time to figure out whether they are going to be an intimate, a friend or an acquaintance. I don't do enemies. If someone dislikes me then I make them like me, and if I can't, I don't interact with them, full stop. My fear of rejection is huge, but my fear of upsetting somebody by trampling over their boundaries and not realizing it, and continuing to make them feel uncomfortable because they are too polite to say anything is bigger.
My own integrity makes me happy. So I spill, as much as I can, to anyone who I think actually cares, in the hope that they will trust me enough to do the same. Nothing they say can shock me, it's all acceptable, so I really don't get why people hold things so close and suffer when they can open up and feel the release, unless they are doing it to protect other people. And that's the only time when I myself will not be a truth-teller - when I'm operating within shared boundaries, the other person's boundary becomes default.
Whatever I have, I am only satisfied with for a moment, then I try to get more and more of it. I have a couple of drinks and I've got to get blind drunk. I get interested in a topic and I have to research it into the night, and often for years. I have an interesting social interaction and I don't want to leave them alone. Someone gives me space from my responsibilities for a day and I get angry that I can't have that space forever. I very easily get obssessed with someone or addicted to something, whether it's something good (like writing) or bad (like surfing the net). The only way not to be addicted is to scatter my interests, but that doesn't give me the satisfaction from the intensity that I crave.
Protect and serve was my motto growing up. As a young kid I would play counsellor to everyone, get into physical fights in the protection of friends, and take bullied and emotionally vulnerable people under my wing. I can't remember the amount of times I offered to run away with someone, just so they knew that someone had their back. As a 14 year old I was in an 18-month relationship with a Jeckyll and Hyde alcoholic 18 years my senior, sacrificing myself in certain ways to try to save him from himself, yet still very much being the one in power the whole time. After that I hung out with what most people would call the "underclass" of my home town - the alcoholics, drug addicts, homeless - for a year, trying to understand them, trying to give them support and encouragement, to empower them by just being open to listening to their stories without judgement. The first week of university I set myself up in a "parent" role, setting up ways in which people could get together not only to socialize, but do all those little organizational things you need to do that can be overwhelming when you're living alone for the first time and trying to make sense of a new system and routine. The protect and serve themes have been running throughout my life and have always been my motivators over any personal ambitions of the kind of success that this society is currently based on, I just haven't yet found a way to harness them in a consistently constructive way while honouring my desire to be free of obligation and others' need to protect their boundaries and feel like they are in charge of their own destinies.
I don't wish to be a member of your group, but I would like a lifetime guestpass.
My heart is warm with the friends I make, and better friends I'll not be knowing. Yet there isn't a train I wouldn't take, no matter where it's going. - Edna St Vincent Millay |
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Lake
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Posted - 30 Jan 2012 : 10:11:28 PM
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Originally posted by .ron4
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Originally posted by Galen
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Originally posted by .ron4
Uh huh, I'm gonna let you think that all night long honey.
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[i]And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl
You're just a big tease aren't you.
"If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change".
you guys have me believing in magic tonight. merci beaucoup.
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.ron4
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Posted - 31 Jan 2012 : 02:58:40 AM
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lake
personally I didn't set out to make someone
believe in magic and be glad for that, but
if you are moved to see something that makes
you feel good then that is the magic of the
human mind, to find something pleasing or
inspiring .
.ron4
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Lake
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Posted - 31 Jan 2012 : 08:21:02 AM
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Don Ron,
Too bad, the rabbit is already out of the hat. It can't be undone.
Warmest regards,
Bubbling Lake
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Glasgow
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Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 12:03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Delphyne
AstralScream, I don’t have much time right now and will come back to your post later. If you’re interested in figuring out your stacking why not compare yourself to definite sx/sps? On here Desdemona, Orpheus, Baba and Veiled One are sx/sp. You surely have talked with some of them here, but why not ask them specifically if they can relate to your self pres issues and how they see their own sp working?
People tend to overtype their sx and although a lof of sp/sx think their sx is rather high it’s often just moderate or low. That might play into your confusion as sp/sx with high sx (called decadent) isn’t the most understood.
I think these videos are a good illustration of the decadent style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8atJYRVFWmc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P1pJ8OHMmE
baba , sxfirst -
why?
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Glasgow
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Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 12:10:25 PM
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riley, your posts are gone, look at site 1
and in addition to that there are 5 sites or so gone.
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WhirlyWhoop
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 7:57:43 PM
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Attempting to determine my own type feels a lot like finding out something is on my face and trying to wipe it off but continually aiming for my chin instead of my forehead.
I'm new, and I need your eyes. Hello.
Quoting my intro post (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1814&whichpage=27):
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I have considered types 5w4, 4w5, 7w6, 6w7, 9w8, 4w3, and 2w3 ... none of the others fit, so I'm most assuredly one of those.
I'm also unsure of my instinctive variant, but I think I might be sp/sx. Collective environments always seem a bit alien to me. I don't think in "we" terms, and I frequently forget that many people do. I have a near-perpetual obliviousness to the impact I might be having on a group. |
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thesingularsensation
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 10:32:16 PM
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Originally posted by Glasgow
baba , sxfirst -
why?
a good test of this is to push someone, take it to the limits. I pushed jb once and he offered to pay my way to amsterdam. so . . . that backfired a bit. hate when that happens. (of course, the person in question has to want the connection, or else they will be stone-walled.)
and then another tell is the ease with which he simply 'fell in' to a stable job and family life. I'm sure that will seem backwards to most of you, but that's the way it goes . . .
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quartz
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 09:50:54 AM
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WhirlyWhoop, my first impression from your intro post is 7. I reserve the right to change my opinion later, on further observation.  |
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Desdemona
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 11:38:08 AM
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Originally posted by manda7panda
WhirlyWhoop, my first impression from your intro post is 7. I reserve the right to change my opinion later, on further observation.
Ditto.
7w6cp Sx/sp
ENFP
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