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Originally posted by Cytokine


Some concerns that I may have about the army, and why most of them probably aren't justified:

1. Exposure to sun. While some trainings are conducted during evening/night time, there are also trainings during strong UV radiation hours. However, army clothes are pretty long and helmets, hats and sunscreen are widely used.
2. Food. Lots of people dislike army food, but from a brief research I've done it's actually pretty nutritious and for the most part low in saturated and trans-fats. Lots of physical activity will ensure that it gets converted to energy. And taste is not high up there on my priorities anyway.
3. Really hard trainings. I'm a little afraid (the thought of well, how hard can it get?), but just because something isn't comfortable doesn't mean that it's not good for me in the long run. Nothing wrong with challenging myself. Besides, if I enlist, it will be for 3 years, not my entire lifespan.
4. Oxidative stress. Everyone brings their coffee, I'll bring my green tea and slap it with ECGC.
5. Nasty people. Not all army staff are known for their delicate manners. Guess I'll have to Cyto it up.

Of course, I haven't yet made a decision. I still have tons of other options. But I'm giving this one a serious consideration.



1w9 sp/sx Obsessive Compulsive

"Corpus omne perseverare in statu suo quiescendi vel movendi uniformiter in directum, nisi quatenus a viribus impressis cogitur statum illum mutare."
Isaacus Newtonus

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Originally posted by chemical_art

A couple of things:

1. I actually would expect the training to be about 50/50 at best. Because when training for anything you want the training to be harder then the real thing. You don't choose when to fight, so you got to be ready for fights in the day, which means training in the day.
2. You will get healthy options, yes, I would imagine. You won't have junk food. But if the food is like here you'll get options that are fine occassionally provided daily. Bacon and eggs everyday are offered (ok, for you maybe not the bacon, but the eggs for sure). But they won't serve food that weiges you down, and you'll burn those calories to muscle like you said.
3. Training will be rough. But plenty of worst shape made it through and survived, so will you.
4. Good luck! That depends on your xo and direct leader.
5. No idea there, but here they are nasty for the most part. The nice guys like me get scared off.

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Originally posted by May Hem

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I've got to perk up here, because this is a common misconception. The only risky branch of the military in the US is the Marines, with the army being a matter of luck

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oh i wasnt catagorizing per say..Just that i know a certain troup that picks the ugliest missions everytime and for whatever reason that came up with cytokines post. probably because im so irritated by it

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Originally posted by Cytokine

Thanks for the tips.

Have you been in the army or ever considered joining?



1w9 sp/sx Obsessive Compulsive

"Corpus omne perseverare in statu suo quiescendi vel movendi uniformiter in directum, nisi quatenus a viribus impressis cogitur statum illum mutare."
Isaacus Newtonus

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Originally posted by chemical_art

I miss you Lila.

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Originally posted by AstralScream

I can't talk again. Oh, I just did!
But, I didn't say anything.

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Originally posted by chemical_art

I wish you luck on your tea thing. Here in the states, everyone in military drinks coffee. It's very ingrained in culture. They'd laugh if you said you wanted tea instead. Russians and Chinese drink tea, not Americans.

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Originally posted by jevoudrais

I read The Elegance of the Hedgehog by Muriel Barbery...one of the best books you'll ever read (French author...of course...and I'm not being shi-shi.) And she extolled the virtues of tea as opposed to bitter yucky obvious coffee. And I thought, for that one moment in the book...oh, but...coffee is SO much better. I felt acutely American...no...it was barbarianized (how painful for soc 4!) And oh how I wanted to love the tea sentiment...but just couldn't.

I love coffee more. Getting a motel room with coffee right now. Coffee can be so rich and complex or just f-ck me in the bushes strong and direct.

F-ck the French. Pthwwww!

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Originally posted by Lake



what does it feel like to speak w/o sharing?

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Originally posted by chemical_art

I know to much to want to join it if I have other possibilities. It's not a matter of life or death. It's a cultural thing. The military attracts 6's who are either so or sp (not sure which yet). As a sx 9 I'm pretty on the opposite spectrum. Everything would be too intense for me. I wouldn't fit in. If you don't fit in the military, you stay on the bottom till you get kicked out. The people inside I won't connect with. It's a very masculine culture. Lots of talk of how you want to kick someone[blocked]or what you do with a female. I don't do either. Kicking[blocked]I'm pretty neutral about, but with females I get really, really, screwed up about (talking about how you want to make sex). No idea why. But it does. Unless you are putting it in a really romantic context, I get bent out of shape. Something about me believes with almost religious conviction that sex is an act of love, and should only be about love. That's another tangent altogether.

Back to military, I could never join army. No matter what position I sign up for, its way to easy for them to say "You're reassigned to frontline infantry." Way too easy. Marines it's worst, since its mostly that. With the navy you are on an airconditioned ship. It's safe and day to day its still distinctly military but its easy to get comfortable in. Airforce its even easier, since you are in a building most of the time rather then outside or in a metal hull.

I wish you luck on your tea thing. Here in the states, everyone in military drinks coffee. It's very ingrained in culture. They'd laugh if you said you wanted tea instead. Russians and Chinese drink tea, not Americans. In boot camp here, they take away everything you have except a few wallet photos. So you can't bring in your tea. If you want your caffeine you get it from coffee. Period. Maybe after camp you can as part of your personal items bring tea, but you provide it on your own. How difficult that is, I don't know. But US military is different then Israeli, so they'll be more accommodating. How much so, I don't know.

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