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Kozy
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 Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 12:32:32 AM
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| Can anyone tell me what it means to have both a 5 and a 8 in your tritype in terms of... I dunno, coldness, cruelty? I've learned that there are highly destructive elements inside of me as well as an evil sociopath who manifests with my anger. Additionally, the only evil person I've ever met was a 358 tritype. So what having both a 5 and an 8 fix do to you? Do these two type together create the biggest potential for evil? |
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thomg
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 12:45:19 AM
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| Yes. |
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skunk
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 02:46:43 AM
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| I have 5 and 8 in my tritype too, and I am very evil. |
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Kozy
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 02:57:09 AM
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| Could you tell me about it skunk? |
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skunk
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 03:02:31 AM
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| I would tell you when you're old enough, but you'll never be old enough. |
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aestrivex
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 2:52:07 PM
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the fauvres describe these tritypes as headstrong, emotionally toughened, opinionated and self confident. describing them as "evil" is silly.
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"His terms are noted for the restoration of democracy in spite of the 1997 difficulties, his management of the Tuareg Rebellion in the north, and his decentralization of the government. However, corruption remained a significant problem under Konaré's administration."
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Kozy
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 3:25:39 PM
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| Well, I've done some evil things, skunk has done some evil thing. I think the adjective is appropriate. What should I say instead? Mean? |
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dusty
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 3:34:02 PM
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| skunk is kidding, he doesn't have 5 or 8 in his tritype. |
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MH
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 4:16:11 PM
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| your talking rejection triad. That equals evil? why? |
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Kozy
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 4:34:58 PM
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| Who said it equals evil? |
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MH
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 5:03:43 PM
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| you? or dont i get some important clue? |
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Kozy
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 5:43:45 PM
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| ???? |
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aestrivex
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 5:43:46 PM
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Originally posted by Kozy
Well, I've done some evil things, skunk has done some evil thing. I think the adjective is appropriate.
even despite how dismissive and judgmental i am, in practice i find it is usually good to avoid generalizing that a particular type or subtype is prone to unredeemable sociopathy.
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"His terms are noted for the restoration of democracy in spite of the 1997 difficulties, his management of the Tuareg Rebellion in the north, and his decentralization of the government. However, corruption remained a significant problem under Konaré's administration."
-- Wikipedia article on Alpha Oumar Konare, leader of Mali. |
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Kozy
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 8:29:27 PM
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aestrivex
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 9:14:08 PM
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Originally posted by Kozy
???????
i am confused by your confusion.
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"His terms are noted for the restoration of democracy in spite of the 1997 difficulties, his management of the Tuareg Rebellion in the north, and his decentralization of the government. However, corruption remained a significant problem under Konaré's administration."
-- Wikipedia article on Alpha Oumar Konare, leader of Mali. |
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Kozy
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 9:24:40 PM
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I just ripped someone apart using their race because they [blocked] me off online. He had asian in his username, so I hurt him as much as I could, calling him a ch ink, telling him his race is short and ugly and yellow, that asians have small weiners. I asked him why asian girls like white guys more, why all his white friends get laid more than him, etc. Basically hurt him as hard as I possibly could using words because he [blocked] me off.
I do things like this to people, I have completely destroyed people. Am I evil? No, I am good with a terrible temper and a passion for revenge. So does evil, as an adjective, apply to me and x58's? Yes it does. And as I said in the original post, there is the potential for evil. I hope we can move past this now. |
Edited by - Kozy on 07 Jun 2012 9:28:08 PM |
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dusty
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 9:51:26 PM
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Am I evil? No, I am good with a terrible temper and a passion for revenge.
And you obviously have no problem being racist. |
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aestrivex
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 9:57:03 PM
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Originally posted by Kozy
I just ripped someone apart using their race because they [blocked] me off online. He had asian in his username, so I hurt him as much as I could, calling him a ch ink, telling him his race is short and ugly and yellow, that asians have small weiners. I asked him why asian girls like white guys more, why all his white friends get laid more than him, etc. Basically hurt him as hard as I possibly could using words because he [blocked] me off.
I do things like this to people, I have completely destroyed people. Am I evil? No, I am good with a terrible temper and a passion for revenge. So does evil, as an adjective, apply to me and x58's? Yes it does. And as I said in the original post, there is the potential for evil. I hope we can move past this now.
ah, so basically what you are saying is that because you are the world's biggest badass, your questionable morals necessarily apply to everyone of this tritype. makes perfect sense.
more seriously, if we are to take the things you are saying at face value and somewhat simplistically, your drive to overpower and hurt people, and indeed the perception that you have of yourself as "evil" for continuously pushing people harder than they are willing to be pushed, seems like a core 8 issue at heart, and not in any way a 5 issue.
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"His terms are noted for the restoration of democracy in spite of the 1997 difficulties, his management of the Tuareg Rebellion in the north, and his decentralization of the government. However, corruption remained a significant problem under Konaré's administration."
-- Wikipedia article on Alpha Oumar Konare, leader of Mali. |
Edited by - aestrivex on 07 Jun 2012 9:57:56 PM |
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ouxu905
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 10:22:47 PM
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I think there's far worse things you could classify as "evil" than ripping into someone online for being Asian (and I'm Asian). If anything it says something about your willingness to go for the jugular when insulted. It could speak more to your sensitivity than anything else as I think 90% of people who talk online come off as as-holes (I can be guilty of it sometimes). Which maybe says something about the root of most "evil." That the source of it is somebody's feelings got hurt bad.
Unless you're a 3. Then it's money.
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Kozy
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 10:28:27 PM
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And you obviously have no problem being racist.
I'm not racist, but I can pretend to be.
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ah, so basically what you are saying is that because you are the world's biggest badass, your questionable morals necessarily apply to everyone of this tritype. makes perfect sense.
Aestrivex, this is very hurtful to me because you're being unfair. I'm just trying to communicate that the word evil is an appropriate adjective that can be applied to me and unhealthy 8's. This is why I made this comment, to understand the cruelty that lurks inside of me from the combination of the 5 and 8. I have not measured this cruelty, so I can not say for sure I am evil or x58's are evil, but just that there is the potential for evil, as I already said in the original post. That is all I'm saying, but we have to argue semantics for 4 or 5 posts and now I have to deal with personal attacks that hurt me.
Regarding what I said about the game, I will have to remember never to open up or be honest for the sake of intellectual exchange and learning on this board again because you responded in a very predictable manner that I would expect from an average person. I guess I was naive in thinking a coherent conversation could be produced from what I said, and I'll make a mental note to dumb down my communication to something less genuine, more shallow.
"ah, so basically what you are saying is that because you are the world's biggest badass, your questionable morals necessarily apply to everyone of this tritype. makes perfect sense."
:/ Come on, man.
This is not what I was saying at all, nor did I say I was a badass, nor did I try to make it seem like I was. I actually made myself look very, very bad and I did it intentionally for the sake of the discussion. How you responded is very, very boring and very, very off putting. I come to this board with the mindset to learn, you clearly came into this thread with the mindset of someone more interested in stimulating their emotions. Your reply to me is so insincere that it just makes me tired.
Look at Dusty's remark, that remark is appropriate. But what you've done is interwine your insults with an argument, which completely poisons this discussion. Do you understand that? That is intellectually unforgivable and very annoying. I feel like it sucks the passion out of me, that I have to sit here and waste energy on such averageness, being forced to acknowledge such boringness and being further inhibited from the information that will satiate my curiosity. |
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skunk
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 10:34:46 PM
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I think 90% of people who talk online come off as as-holes
And here was me thinking I was special. |
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aestrivex
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Posted - 07 Jun 2012 : 10:54:24 PM
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Originally posted by Kozy
Aestrivex, this is very hurtful to me because you're being unfair. I'm just trying to communicate that the word evil is an appropriate adjective that can be applied to me and unhealthy 8's. This is why I made this comment, to understand the cruelty that lurks inside of me from the combination of the 5 and 8. I have not measured this cruelty, so I can not say for sure I am evil or x58's are evil, but just that there is the potential for evil, as I already said in the original post. That is all I'm saying, but we have to argue semantics for 4 or 5 posts and now I have to deal with personal attacks that hurt me.
Regarding what I said about the game, I will have to remember never to open up or be honest for the sake of intellectual exchange and learning on this board again because you responded in a very predictable manner that I would expect from an average person. I guess I was naive in thinking a coherent conversation could be produced from what I said, and I'll make a mental note to dumb down my communication to something less genuine, more shallow.
This is not what I was saying at all, nor did I say I was a badass, nor did I try to make it seem like I was. I actually made myself look very, very bad and I did it intentionally for the sake of the discussion. How you responded is very, very boring and very, very off putting. I come to this board with the mindset to learn, you clearly came into this thread with the mindset of someone more interested in stimulating their emotions. Your reply to me is so insincere that it just makes me tired.
taking your comments at face value, i think it is commendable for you to come into this discussion being honest about yourself, and i do not doubt that this is the way you in are in fact approaching the situation internally.
however, from my perspective and perhaps that of others who may or may not also be subtly mocking you for your comments, it appears as though you have charged into this discussion with little knowledge and made some rather outlandish claims about the nature of this tritype (and indeed claims which might have some real merit when applied to core 8 issues rather than tritype issues, in my opinion).
it appears to me that in making a broad brush assumption about the motivations of me and others as "mere troublemakers" or whatever, that you are still not taking the time to think cautiously.
if you indeed are genuinely interested in fostering an intellectual discussion and learning about new perspectives, what would you say is the role of a 5 fixation in the "evilness" you are describing? because i don't see what it does have to do with it.
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"His terms are noted for the restoration of democracy in spite of the 1997 difficulties, his management of the Tuareg Rebellion in the north, and his decentralization of the government. However, corruption remained a significant problem under Konaré's administration."
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emerald
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Posted - 08 Jun 2012 : 10:29:28 AM
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Originally posted by Kozy
Can anyone tell me what it means to have both a 5 and a 8 in your tritype in terms of... I dunno, coldness, cruelty? I've learned that there are highly destructive elements inside of me as well as an evil sociopath who manifests with my anger. Additionally, the only evil person I've ever met was a 358 tritype. So what having both a 5 and an 8 fix do to you? Do these two type together create the biggest potential for evil?
Kozy, if you want helpful input, wait for an answer from Desdemona, Kate, Sunny, mystery2me, or Rich. Many of the other regular posters enjoy toying with relative newcomers and sparring (sometimes constructively) with each other. So their replys may or may not be serious. They tend to write insightful and serious posts if they are talking about themselves or interacting with longtime friends, so they are obviously bright and knowledable, but...
Are you entirely sure of your typing?
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Stormy
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Posted - 08 Jun 2012 : 11:42:33 AM
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Originally posted by Kozy
Well, I've done some evil things, skunk has done some evil thing. I think the adjective is appropriate. What should I say instead? Mean?
Provocative.
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Desdemona
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Posted - 08 Jun 2012 : 12:56:03 PM
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Originally posted by Kozy
I just ripped someone apart using their race because they [blocked] me off online. He had asian in his username, so I hurt him as much as I could, calling him a ch ink, telling him his race is short and ugly and yellow, that asians have small weiners. I asked him why asian girls like white guys more, why all his white friends get laid more than him, etc. Basically hurt him as hard as I possibly could using words because he [blocked] me off.
This doesn't seem typical of 5 or 8, imo. I've personally only seen this sort of behavior out of one unhealthy 3w2 and some unhealthy 6's and 7's.
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I am good with a terrible temper and a passion for revenge.
This could be lots of types.
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So does evil, as an adjective, apply to me and x58's? Yes it does. And as I said in the original post, there is the potential for evil. I hope we can move past this now.
Everyone has the potential for evil.
7w6cp Sx/sp
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Desdemona
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Posted - 08 Jun 2012 : 1:01:56 PM
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Originally posted by emerald
Kozy, if you want helpful input, wait for an answer from Desdemona, Kate, Sunny, mystery2me, or Rich.
Well, thank you, Emerald.
7w6cp Sx/sp
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