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Sinking
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USA
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  11:46:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Sinking's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm interested in what angers each gut type, individually. Please share from personal experience.

Just answer this question: What makes you angry?
Remember to say your gut fix.
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All at once I knew I was not magnificent.

Edited by - Sinking on 23 Jun 2012 11:47:21 AM

whitelila
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  12:50:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit whitelila's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What makes me angry:

guilt trips that I don't do enough
interruptions when focused on writing
loud noises
excessive criticism
someone hurting my children or loved ones
failing myself (not taking care of myself)

but maybe the question you should be asking is what hurts us.
when I'm truly hurt my heart burns with rage. I can actually physically feel my heart burning. Total defeat. putting myself in a vulnerable position based on trust and then being shamed by another.
Things along those lines. betrayal of trust and lack of basic human decency.

I'm either 8 or 9 fixed. I don't know. My guess is 9.

Edited by - whitelila on 23 Jun 2012 1:02:43 PM
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hello0o
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  12:58:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit hello0o's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I didn't start experiencing anger until maybe a year ago. Before that it was just sadness. But now, I think I get angry when I feel threatened or those that I love are threatened. When others misjudge me and won't let down.

ISFP 9w8 sp/sx
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1NFJ
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  1:16:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit 1NFJ's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In rough order of (most to least) severity...

- Lying
- Hypocrisy
- Selfishness
- Irresponsibility
- Lack of trust/betrayal
- Humiliation/guilt trips
- Too many things going wrong in a period of time

(edited for specificity)


---

1w9 sp/sx
INFJ

Edited by - 1NFJ on 23 Jun 2012 4:18:56 PM
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Stormy
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  1:25:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1NFJ

In rough order of severity...

- Lying
- Hypocrisy
- Selfishness
- Irresponsibility
- Lack of trust/betrayal
- Humiliation/guilt trips
- Too many things going wrong in a period of time


Is that from most severe to least severe, or from least severe to most severe?

- [Stormy]
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Glasgow
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Germany
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:10:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Glasgow's Homepage  Reply with Quote
-if things dont go the way i want them to
-injustice
-lying
- being backstabbing
-hypocrisy
-stupidity
-histrionics
-inauthenticity
-self pity
-moaning
-sadism
-hurting of childs and animals
etc


Edited by - Glasgow on 23 Jun 2012 2:27:02 PM
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skunk
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:14:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit skunk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hitler's a Six. Period.
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Sinking
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:17:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sinking's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm a SX/SP 9w8. I experience anger quite often. Here's what I wrote on another thread about what angers me:

  • superiority
  • Friends that don't actually care about me as a person.
  • When people pretend that my lifeis so much better than their's. They minimize my problems.

  • Being controlled, especially by authority.
  • righteous anger, like when people are just plain mean, to myself, but especially others.
  • When people overreact to me and just become unreasonable.

I never get mad at people for their incompetence, or their mistakes.

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All at once I knew I was not magnificent.
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Sinking
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:19:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sinking's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Remember to tell your gut fix (Glasgow )

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All at once I knew I was not magnificent.
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Glasgow
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:23:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Glasgow's Homepage  Reply with Quote
profile, sin king

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Sinking
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:25:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sinking's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ahhh 8w7.
You're not the first to call me sin king

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All at once I knew I was not magnificent.
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Glasgow
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:28:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Glasgow's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sinking

Ahhh 8w7.
You're not the first to call me sin king

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All at once I knew I was not magnificent.



maby because its your name

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Stormy
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:39:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sinking

Just answer this question: What makes you angry?


- Having to fix other people's mistakes
- Being incapable of opting-out of social events
- People calling me out on my evasiveness

- [Stormy]
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EMike583
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  2:47:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit EMike583's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stormy

quote:
Originally posted by Sinking

Just answer this question: What makes you angry?


- Having to fix other people's mistakes
- Being incapable of opting-out of social events
- People calling me out on my evasiveness

- [Stormy]



Avarice
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Sinking
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  3:01:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sinking's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Glasgow

quote:
Originally posted by Sinking

Ahhh 8w7.
You're not the first to call me sin king

--------
All at once I knew I was not magnificent.



maby because its your name




My name is sinking, not sin king as in king of sin.

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All at once I knew I was not magnificent.
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Glasgow
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  3:22:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Glasgow's Homepage  Reply with Quote
you don't say.

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eidbuser
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  5:34:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit eidbuser's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ignorance
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whitelila
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  5:44:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit whitelila's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eidbuser

Ignorance



Willful ignorance.
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Fleets
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  5:51:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Fleets's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Assumptions
Manipulation (attempted)
Unthinking action

( - an 8 fix perhaps? May be One.)

Edited by - Fleets on 23 Jun 2012 6:45:44 PM
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Sinking
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  6:07:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sinking's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When people don't question their own beliefs, or assumptions. Over-valuing their own opinion.

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All at once I knew I was not magnificent.
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Desdemona
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  8:57:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EMike583

quote:
Originally posted by Stormy

quote:
Originally posted by Sinking

Just answer this question: What makes you angry?


- Having to fix other people's mistakes
- Being incapable of opting-out of social events
- People calling me out on my evasiveness

- [Stormy]



Avarice



I don't see any of this as avarice.


7w6cp Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
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LadyAnnathema
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Posted - 24 Jun 2012 :  12:34:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit LadyAnnathema's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Core 9.

Most things that actually anger me come down to disrespect.

I treat people by and large with respect. I respect their rights, boundaries, freedoms, privacy, and any agreed upon 'contracts' as long as they respect mine.

Violating my 'rights', overstepping boundaries, restricting my freedom, invading my privacy, or breaking agreements/contracts angers me. I can extend to other people as well, as in it angers me to see people violate each others rights as well.

Everything else is just an annoyance, the worst of which is being slow. Talking slow, moving slow, not getting in gear fast enough. I also hate phone calls.

Edited by - LadyAnnathema on 24 Jun 2012 12:43:57 AM
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skyboy
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Posted - 25 Jun 2012 :  07:40:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit skyboy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1NFJ

In rough order of (most to least) severity...

- Lying
- Hypocrisy
- Selfishness
- Irresponsibility
- Lack of trust/betrayal
- Humiliation/guilt trips
- Too many things going wrong in a period of time

(edited for specificity)




4w5. Gut fix is 1w9. The same.

When people do not get the method and try finding tangents ignoring supervision without saying it (dissimulation), especially if the tangents fail and people do not take the responsibility of this failure. People ignoring my "do this way because that's the best way". When people are not paying attention seriously, people not willing to learn, incompetence, lack of self-critic and over-estimated self-esteem. Lies and dissimulation generally.

4w5 SP/SO (Tritype 451)
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skyboy
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Posted - 25 Jun 2012 :  07:51:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit skyboy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desdemona

quote:
Originally posted by EMike583

quote:
Originally posted by Stormy

quote:
Originally posted by Sinking

Just answer this question: What makes you angry?


- Having to fix other people's mistakes
- Being incapable of opting-out of social events
- People calling me out on my evasiveness

- [Stormy]



Avarice



I don't see any of this as avarice.



Absolutely. This is not avarice. Re-read 9 vs 5 tension in bear's message which was brilliantly described : http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27569&whichpage=9

4w5 SP/SO (Tritype 451)
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loscust
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Posted - 25 Jun 2012 :  08:47:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit loscust's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Abuse of power is a big one for me. When I see somebody take advantage of others just because they are in position to do so rather than taking care of those who have been entrusted into their caring. This is one thing that has oft prompted me to take action.


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the_imperfectionist
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Posted - 01 Jul 2012 :  09:34:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit the_imperfectionist's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I feel very disfunctional writing some of these but honestly...

People who justify selfishness as such --'I don't visit my relative in the nursing home because I find it too upsetting'
Injustice
Greed
People who chase status for status's sake
People who don't reflect
People who scramble to be centre of attention
People (usually 6s) who call my attention to dangers I am painfully aware of but am trying not to focus on
People who don't take subtle hints to move away -- usually people who I can feel sucking my energy
People who assume that their idea of fun is everybody's idea of fun (give me a one-to-one chat over a party of people anyday)
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