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shakti
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 Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 11:52:44 PM
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I've known I'd get a tarot deck at some point.
I've found two that have spoken to me over the last several months.
Haindl and Symbolon.
Today, I bought the Haindl deck. I'm going to use it for a type of meditation slowly assimilating it into my awareness over time.
I am curious if you have a deck and if so, which one (or ones) speak to you. |
Edited by - shakti on 23 Aug 2009 11:56:48 PM |
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AstralScream
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 12:46:27 AM
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| I've used the Haindl, the Dragon Tarot, and the traditional Rider-Waite deck. The Haindl was my first, and definitely my favourite. It uses a lot of symbolism I can relate to easily, though I'd suggest familiarizing yourself with the Rider-Waite at some point. The images aren't as inspiring to me, but the symbolism is probably the least 'tainted'. |
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shakti
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 02:02:31 AM
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Originally posted by AstralScream
I've used the Haindl, the Dragon Tarot, and the traditional Rider-Waite deck. The Haindl was my first, and definitely my favourite. It uses a lot of symbolism I can relate to easily, though I'd suggest familiarizing yourself with the Rider-Waite at some point. The images aren't as inspiring to me, but the symbolism is probably the least 'tainted'.
Thank you. I scanned a variety of decks but happened to spend some time looking at the Dragon Tarot today.
I am familiar with some of the archetypal imagery from the Rider-Waite deck. I get what you mean by the least tainted. Exposure to that and the Thoth deck seem like the classics.
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Stormy
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Abi
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 07:48:13 AM
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I collect Tarot, so I have dozens of decks and many books. I used to work with them every day, researching their history and experimenting with various layouts.
My favorite for personal use is The Prediction Deck which, unfortunately, is out of print.
Here are some of the images from the net, with minor overlap.
One of the reasons I prefer this deck is because the minor arcana consist solely of pips and not the art representing someone else's interpretation of the card.
Don't get me wrong, I love the art on several of my decks...which is why I collect them in the first place. However, when it comes to interpretation for my personal use, I prefer my own intuition.
Also, many decks have gotten away from some of the original images, which again is fine for art's sake...but I prefer the historical images. For example, the hourglass for The Hermit (which is the background for the Prediction Hermit) and coins instead of the ubiquitous pentacles.
One of the things I like to do with my cards (for my own use and for presents to others) is to print out the images and decoupage them to a candle...so that the flickering light shining thru brings the images to life.
For eaxmple, if a friend has a favorite card such as The Emperor, I will print out four dif Emperors to use on a square candle. Or if someone wants a creative visualization layout to remind them of a specific path. I, myself, have The Fool (my favorite card) on a white candle.
I also find it fun to buy extras of certain decks and use the cards as bookmarks in my books. Which card finds its way into which book can be quite interesting.
If anyone needs a specific image from a certain deck that I may have or a passage from one of the tarot books I have, just let me know and I will scan it for you. I can upload them at Ediots, since EIDB doesn't have that feature.
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The Dreamer
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Shinobi Shaw
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 10:43:58 AM
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I use the A.E. WAITE (for schorlarly reasons not for divination) deck as its absolutely *rich* in Esoteric symbology and I've done the research on what each and every symbol means. Waite was a genius with the symbology.
I won't reveal much myself, but the cards that are most telling (or revealing or most important) are....
The Magician
The Fool
The High Priestess
Temperance
The Sun (whose symbology will be very important in the next 20 years)
Cards like The Hermit and Justice have a *completely* different meanings then the traditional meaning that is given to then outside esotericism.
ENFj 3w4 sp/sx
Sun Sign: Aries, Moon Sign: Capricorn, Rising Sign: Virgo
Year: Dog (Water), Month: Dragon (wood), Hour: Rooster
Nakshatra: Shravana (Aquila, Vishnu, Sarasvati, Makara)
If you do not fight, you will not survive! |
Edited by - Shinobi Shaw on 24 Aug 2009 10:53:04 AM |
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~lee~
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 11:13:42 AM
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I''ve not studied the Tarot, so don't have discriminating tastes.
Decks that have come my way include:
Art Nouveau (Matt.Myers)--given out by vendors at a Genome Conference--go figure!
Voyager (Wanless, Knutson)--given to me by a friend
PoMo Tarot-- a postmodern deck for navigating the next millennium -- yard sale acquisition
I have a book called the Enchanted Tarot--Zerner/Farber--but not the cards--the pictures in the book are lovely, though. Another yard sale acquisition.
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/enchanted/ |
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Shinobi Shaw
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 11:20:44 AM
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I also love how Waite (a master of esotericism) basically rips a new one onto many other occultists of the 18th and 19 century who did not *get* it, Like Eliphas Levi....
PAPUS also did not get it 100% (which is why Waite rips on him too) but he almost got it.
ENFj 3w4 sp/sx
Sun Sign: Aries, Moon Sign: Capricorn, Rising Sign: Virgo
Year: Dog (Water), Month: Dragon (wood), Hour: Rooster
Nakshatra: Shravana (Aquila, Vishnu, Sarasvati, Makara)
If you do not fight, you will not survive! |
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dfgray44
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 1:09:34 PM
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I've got this deck:
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/spanish/index.shtml#cards
An ex-girlfriend of mine was a master with Tarot, and used that same deck...except hers are nicely worn-in (almost falling apart); mine have an offensive glossy new-ness to them.
The first time I met her she used the cards to discern something that was going on with me and a friend...which I hadn't solicited her to divine. It was right on.
She's an sp/sx 6w7 who looked like a witch - thick black hair and imposing fine features. It was perfect. Still haven't shaken the spell.
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Shinobi Shaw
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 10:18:32 PM
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Waite mentiones that the MAJOR arcana cards were not originally for divination (and they are not), the Major arcana cards are like a 'picturebook' detailing (through symbology) some of the most profound mysteries of the universe.
If you want to know the Mysteries, one easy way to do it is by studying the esoteric symbology of the Major arcana cards.
The LESSER arcana cards are strictly divinatory (though some have deeper meanings in them).
Here is an example of what I mean about the Major arcana cards and their true meaning.
TEMPERANCE has *nothing* to do with the conventional virtue of "Temperance."
Waite mentions that it's "the Secret of Eternal Life" and it's the "ARCANUM MAGNUM" (Great Secret) of the Occultists.
If you want to know what that is, then know what the true meaning fo Temperance is.
It's the Occultic art of ALCHEMY (which is indeed the secre to eternal life in THIS INCARNATION).
JUSTICE is another highly misinterpreted card (which Waite points out).
JUSTICE has *nothing* to do with the virtue of "Justice" (as Waite himself explains the Tarot is not of Roman/Greek mythology, nor does every symbol of it entail to be from ancient Egypt).
Waite says for example that the "temple' of JUSTICE leads to one world and the 'temple' of the HIGH PRIESTESS leads to another.
The HIGH PRIESTESS actually represents Shekinah/Sakti/Prakriti and in the more dense plains she is Malkuth (as Waite says) and in the Divine plane she is B'INAH (the Great Mother i.e. the "chaotic waters" or SPACE).
B'inah is the vastness cosmic Space, however Malkuth (the subtle physical version) is an inner world.
Though THE STAR is the card that represents "The Great Mother" or Mulaprakriti/Rhea/Isis/Nut/Cybele/B'nah/Timat/Vishnu etc.
She is The DIVINE FEMININE i.e. SPACE, the vastness of Space, the chaotic waters. who as Waite himself says "pours her influences to the emanations below" or something to that effect.
Therefore the High Priestess is Shekinah (as Waite mentiones) which is the equivalent of Sakti/Prakriti.
Anyway JUSTICE actually deals with certain type of men/women in this world who obsessively so seek the highest powers and ambition (political, military etc.) David Icke calls them "Reptilian" and PAPUS calls them "Elementary Existence" which is an esoteric term.
In a more modern context you may even call them Psychopaths in the more extreme levels, and even though it may seem like these people are at the top and the masses are not. Due to their lack of Spiritual growth these type of people become grossly materialistic therefore never reaching the higher worlds in the afterdeath states (hence JUSTICE).
So in otherwords, Life is about suffering and battling it out kiddies.....
ENFj 3w4 sp/sx
Sun Sign: Aries, Moon Sign: Capricorn, Rising Sign: Virgo
Year: Dog (Water), Month: Dragon (wood), Hour: Rooster
Nakshatra: Shravana (Aquila, Vishnu, Sarasvati, Makara)
If you do not fight, you will not survive! |
Edited by - Shinobi Shaw on 24 Aug 2009 10:48:15 PM |
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Shinobi Shaw
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 10:55:17 PM
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The Magician is my favorite, for he is none other then Higher Consciousness, UNITY of being on all planes (as Waite says), he is the DIVINE MASCULINE i.e. the UNMANIFEST-UNMANIFEST (1st Logos) (the impenetrable absolute), the cosmic unmanifest background of Space (it's totality).
He is SPIRIT and Purusha, unmanifested reality, formless containing all possibilities.
He is THE DIVINE CREATOR (as Papus says) what we lowly humans call GOD.
He is The SOURCE of everything, bringing forth the divine from ABOVE and manifesting it BELOW. He emanates onto *every* single entity in this universe through the inner god within of all beings.
ENFj 3w4 sp/sx
Sun Sign: Aries, Moon Sign: Capricorn, Rising Sign: Virgo
Year: Dog (Water), Month: Dragon (wood), Hour: Rooster
Nakshatra: Shravana (Aquila, Vishnu, Sarasvati, Makara)
If you do not fight, you will not survive! |
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shakti
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Posted - 25 Aug 2009 : 12:37:33 AM
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Stormy, Abi, The Dreamer, df thank you for posting pic and links. I haven't had a chance to look at all the links yet.
Shinobi, you surprise me. |
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Shinobi Shaw
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Posted - 25 Aug 2009 : 12:47:39 AM
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Shinobi, you surprise me
Ahhh, but this is not the old Shinobi from a few years ago, this is a vastly more Spiritual Shinobi.
The transformation has been slowly happening for about 1 1/2 years, but it really took off this past May when I had a powerful Spiritual awakening as I saw the radiance and light of the Creator awakened from my consciousness.
I am usually an extreme guy so once I get into something I self-sacrificially search for it (even if I hurt physically, even if I don't get any sleep) until I do.
Even with all this research, I am still learning and I am still searching.
But once you feel the radiance of the Divine Creator and the Divine Mother and its lower emanations, it's like Glory!
In one of my meditations (it took me an hour to reach this state), I was in a Nirvanic state (for about 2-3 minutes), I felt just...it's undescribable. It was like I was connected with everything and I felt one with the universe (It felt like I was one with a higher being).
It was an experience way better then any physical pleasure I've experience, I've never felt anything like it.
This is also part of a new awakening that is happening all over the world, many people are waking up and becoming more conscious.
ENFj 3w4 sp/sx
Sun Sign: Aries, Moon Sign: Capricorn, Rising Sign: Virgo
Year: Dog (Water), Month: Dragon (wood), Hour: Rooster
Nakshatra: Shravana (Aquila, Vishnu, Sarasvati, Makara)
If you do not fight, you will not survive! |
Edited by - Shinobi Shaw on 25 Aug 2009 01:04:47 AM |
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shakti
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Posted - 25 Aug 2009 : 12:52:50 AM
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Edited by - shakti on 25 Aug 2009 01:12:24 AM |
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Shinobi Shaw
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Posted - 25 Aug 2009 : 01:25:17 AM
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Anyone I just hope I can find it within myself to overcome my Dweller on the Threshold/Shadow.
Because I know how evil it is and how strong it is (and I am not kidding, it's evil and its a BEAST), I've felt it first hand and it is a savage animal with absolutely no soul.
I use to embrace that a few years ago and did some horrible things, which I now wholeheartely regret. I am still fighting that inner demon in me (its stronger then many other people's inner beast, because my inner beast is an unsconscious souless Beast who is intense and seeks destruction/oblivion).
Now I am preparing for this New Consciousness to arise in the the next 10-15 years.
This is Karmic, because I know I was a tyrant in a past life and it still lingered on in this one. This is the life I make a change (or at least where I am given a choice).
They say in the KALI YUGA any Spirituality is like 10 times that of a Spirituality in past ages.
I know this is my life to change toward the future.
[quote]Originally posted by Shinobi Shaw
Anyone I just hope I can find it within myself to overcome my Dweller on the Threshold/Shadow.
Because I know how evil it is and how strong it is (and I am not kidding, it's evil and its a BEAST), I've felt it first hand and it is a savage animal with absolutely no soul.
I use to embrace that a few years ago and did some horrible things, which I now wholeheartely regret. I am still fighting that inner demon in me (its stronger then many other people's inner beast, because my inner beast is an unsconscious souless Beast who is intense and seeks destruction/oblivion).
Now I am preparing for this New Consciousness to arise in the the next 10-15 years.
This is Karmic, because I know I was a tyrant in a past life and it still lingered on in this one. This is the life I make a change (or at least where I am given a choice).
They say in the KALI YUGA any Spirituality is like 10 times that of a Spirituality in past ages.
I know this is my life to change toward the future.
BTW if there was a Minor Arcana card to describe me it would be the PAGE OF CUPS (Waite's view on it), it describes pretty well both in healthy and unhealthy (reversed) levels
ENFj 3w4 sp/sx
Sun Sign: Aries, Moon Sign: Capricorn, Rising Sign: Virgo
Year: Dog (Water), Month: Dragon (wood), Hour: Rooster
Nakshatra: Shravana (Aquila, Vishnu, Sarasvati, Makara)
If you do not fight, you will not survive! |
Edited by - Shinobi Shaw on 25 Aug 2009 3:49:37 PM |
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uchtungbaby
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 : 05:04:16 AM
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I use to use a type of tarot deck based on the Eygptian cartouche.
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Invicta
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Posted - 28 Aug 2009 : 10:18:47 AM
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Originally posted by uchtungbaby
I use to use a type of tarot deck based on the Eygptian cartouche.
Uchtung, I think you would make a spectacular Tarot, were you inspired to do so. I'd like to see it if you do. |
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uchtungbaby
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Posted - 30 Aug 2009 : 12:24:00 AM
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Thank you Invicta,
I would use a tarot only I gave my deck away many years ago. Perhaps there is a tarot online. I'll just go have a look.
Yes there is a tarot online. It is at http://www.facade.com/tarot/. For the record, I used the New Orleans deck and a shadow spread. There is a Dr.John in the lower part of the deck signifying my reluctance to advocate artful deceptions.
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Invicta
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Posted - 30 Aug 2009 : 10:35:52 AM
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got it. |
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