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ChrisMarr
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 Posted - 19 Nov 2009 : 03:53:36 AM
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There's a type of medication I'm on. It's a mild tranquilizer. I believe it's very addictive. It's called Clonazepam. If you're curious, I take it for obsessive compulsive disorder, aka OCD.
I'm curious to hear about the different possibilities on how it can affect one's ennea-type. At this point and time, I'm convinced that I am personality type nine.
Now here's the thing...
The more I take of this medicine, the more I feel more connected to my eight energies. I suppose you could say my eight wing is stronger when I'm on a higher dosage of Clonazepam. My attention goes from being just a drifting nine to a more dominating one, a more assertive type. My energy is out and extroverted.
When I'm on a low dosage (or just completely offf of them), I feel more connected to my one self. My one wing seems to emerge out of nowhere. I feel more like a one, behave more like a one. I'm more critical of myself, more concerned about what's right. Reality is perceived through different lenses.
It's considered a 'mild drug' but it seems to change or affect my personalty(ies).
Hope someone can suggest a few ideas.
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Quebranta
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Posted - 19 Nov 2009 : 09:17:23 AM
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The fact that you have OCD makes me think that 9w1 is more likely to be your real type.
I don't believe that medicines or anything can change your basic type. Maybe your external behavior, but that's all. And if you see some similarities with the 9w8 when you take the medicine (or similarities with any other type), that doesn't necessarily mean that there's been an inner change in you. Your inner motivations should remain the same.
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Scarecrow
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Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 12:32:20 AM
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| Medication definately effects behavior. Methanfedamines make ou aggresivead confrontational no matter what type you are. Cannibus makes you mellow. Chemically, you will chnge, no matter who you are. |
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JoL
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Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 12:39:40 PM
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ChrisMarr, I'd say just be careful not to overuse your Klonopin. It is addicting and horrible to withdraw from, from what I've seen.
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ChrisMarr
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Canada
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Posted - 21 Nov 2009 : 12:20:23 AM
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Thanks JoL... I know. I've withdrawn from these meds before. It's crazy. It's like crack. Legal crack. It can make u go crazzzy! Anyways, I'm not a 9w1. I'm just a 9 :) Cheers
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AstralScream
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Posted - 21 Nov 2009 : 01:25:58 AM
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Two years ago I was on Prozac for depression.
It turned me into a complete maniac (which probably indicates that I have some mild bipolar disorder). I suddenly became very 7-ish for a while, but I don't think I actually turned into a 7.
And I was still very depressed most of the time, but it brought about these terrifying mixed episodes where my mind was racing but I still felt delusionally hopeless. Very dangerous; I stopped taking it after crashing in most of my efforts to improve.
But, yes psychiatric drugs are very powerful and can definitely alter your typical 'mode of being'. |
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radical_ed
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Posted - 22 Nov 2009 : 03:22:29 AM
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Medications - can it affect your personality?
Oh, HELL, yes.
Chronic illness of any type, as well as the medication you can take the treat it, does affect your personality. Notice I didn't say change your personality. If you got well, you'd be the person you'd be originally. But if you're sick for long enough, you can actually forget about your "real" self because you only are in contact with your "sick" self.
As a recovering OCD sufferer, I find it a great help to tell myself what I call the "layman's definition" of OCD when I get anxious:
"OCD is trying to control what you can't through what you can."
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ChrisMarr
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Canada
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Posted - 26 Nov 2009 : 03:34:51 AM
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I hate OCD and I have changed into 9 with an disgustingly unhealthy 1 wing. That's why I never decided to come on here, despite being interested in the enneagram for 8 years. Wow. Talk about disintegration. Well, at least im better :) Glad you understand. quote:
Originally posted by radical_ed
quote:
Medications - can it affect your personality?
Oh, HELL, yes.
Chronic illness of any type, as well as the medication you can take the treat it, does affect your personality. Notice I didn't say change your personality. If you got well, you'd be the person you'd be originally. But if you're sick for long enough, you can actually forget about your "real" self because you only are in contact with your "sick" self.
As a recovering OCD sufferer, I find it a great help to tell myself what I call the "layman's definition" of OCD when I get anxious:
"OCD is trying to control what you can't through what you can."
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Radical Edward
7w6 ENTP
My anime alter-ego/namesake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xlGB7gxe1I
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mellern
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Posted - 27 Nov 2009 : 02:30:49 AM
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| Hi there, In this case I'd say that the Klonopin is lowering your anxiety which frees up mental/aggressive space and energy. I'm in the mental health field and have seen it happen many times. Those who take K for anxiety are usually more honest and focused on it. If the dose is too high, they don't give a damn about anything. |
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radical_ed
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Posted - 27 Nov 2009 : 11:06:32 PM
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Glad I helped out a bit, ChrisMarr.
I have recently learned that in my case, my feelings of anxiety occur when I am actually angry about something or someone. I was taught that anger is bad, so the feeling comes out as anxiety instead. My OCD-type behaviors are actually an attempt to get control over my anger, and I am angry about a loss of control. (Circular, isn't it?  ) That was really helpful for me to realize. Maybe it might help you, I don't know.
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My anime alter-ego/namesake:
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9angel
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Posted - 27 Nov 2009 : 11:41:57 PM
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| I'm also in the mental health field and would have to agree with Mellen that medication can seem to "change" personality. There is some research being done on biochemistry and type and it will be interesting to learn what is being found in the studies. But it makes perfect sense that personality type (or at least the part that is temperament; personality type=temperament + character) is expressed via the biochemistry of the body and that medication does affect the biochemistry. So, it doesn't surprise me at all that a 9 would feel that shadow 8 emerging, for example. |
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mellern
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Posted - 28 Nov 2009 : 03:44:45 AM
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9angel -
Can you possibly elaborate on these studies that you're talking about? Are you referring to ennea types or more general personality types? I'm very curious :) |
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