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mystery2me
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 :  08:23:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit mystery2me's Homepage  Reply with Quote
He might have four in the fix, I'm beginning to think 6w7 over 7w6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFzzPtLuFI0&feature=related
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Timo84
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 :  4:38:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Timo84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Further examples of probably 7s or 6s who can be typed as 4s are german music acts

Casper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeMLX5gvscg)
Clueso (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToCpwtxOJMY)

Both are really really hard to spot for me. Any insights would be appreciated.

Edited by - Timo84 on 03 Jun 2012 4:39:27 PM
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Desdemona
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 :  8:02:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Timo84
@Desdemona: He might be even your exact same self-typing type.



I'm not disagreeing with that, I just don't see how anyone from that show could be typed as a 4. From the clip mystery posted, I see how he could be 7w6 or 6w7, but don't see any fourishness there. Are people typing based upon certain facets of his appearance? What in his behavior says 4, or even fourISH?

Btw, are you saying you type me differently than I self type? I'm not taking offense, just wondering, based on your phrasing.


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Edited by - Desdemona on 03 Jun 2012 8:03:35 PM
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Timo84
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 :  9:01:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Timo84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I didn't really paid enough attention to say what your type is all about. It was just a referring to you post-signature as this guy might have same stacking.
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Timo84
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 :  9:08:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Timo84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh I forgot. Something 7s and 4s share is their apparent pain and sadness. While7s are totally ignorant and avoidant to that, 4s tend to dwell on it.

Ps: from your photo I would have guessed more sx/sp 6w7 but also with 4 fix..
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Kate
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Posted - 12 Jun 2012 :  01:59:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kate's Homepage  Reply with Quote

misidentification

Beck 7 (not 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrG6xBW5Wk&feature=relmfu

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Desdemona
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Posted - 13 Jun 2012 :  12:30:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Timo84

Oh I forgot. Something 7s and 4s share is their apparent pain and sadness. While7s are totally ignorant and avoidant to that, 4s tend to dwell on it.


Thanks, Timo, but 7's are not "totally ignorant" of their pain. Really.

quote:
Ps: from your photo I would have guessed more sx/sp 6w7 but also with 4 fix..



Yeah, I look like a wide array of different types in different pics. In the one you were referring to, I was purposely tilting my head to give a more realistic view of my face shape....digital pics tend to distort or flatten it unless I do that.


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Desdemona
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Posted - 13 Jun 2012 :  12:35:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kate


misidentification

Beck 7 (not 4)


I like his music, but I've never read much about him or watched any interviews. How is he usually typed?


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Kate
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  01:26:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kate's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Des,

In my travels, I believe I've seen 4w3, (maybe 5w4), 7w6, 7w8 and 6.

He's a head type and to me bonafide 7. Ask me and another 7. We'll stamp it and seal it.

I'm not up for dismembering him, not that I'd want to. But, energetically, stylistically, musically, BIG 7.

I've read a bit of his bio. Not interested in regurgitating it. It's out there to read, if you want to know.

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Desdemona
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  02:56:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kate


Ask me and another 7. We'll stamp it and seal it.



?? Are you not considering me a 7 these days?


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Kate
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  03:11:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kate's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desdemona

quote:
Originally posted by Kate


Ask me and another 7. We'll stamp it and seal it.



?? Are you not considering me a 7 these days?


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That's not what I meant. I was referring to someone else in my life that I'm close to and share musical taste (among other things) with, when I said another 7.


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Desdemona
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  03:22:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kate
That's not what I meant. I was referring to someone else in my life that I'm close to and share musical taste (among other things) with, when I said another 7.


Oh, okay. I wondered what the heck you were talking about.


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MH
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  03:56:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit MH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"7s are not totally ignorant of their pain. really" yeah I kinda wtfed on that. Not sure where in the hell he's coming from. For context I looked at your profile des. You posted a new picture! very nice photo
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transformer
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  2:37:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit transformer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"misidentification

Beck 7 (not 4)" Kate



Beck is a clear cut 4w5. Don't know how you could type him as a 7.
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dfgray44
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  4:27:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit dfgray44's Homepage  Reply with Quote
He's a 9. Nowhere in the vicinity of 4w5.

Too still and affectless to be a 7w6.



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skunk
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  4:42:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit skunk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Timo84

Further examples of probably 7s or 6s who can be typed as 4s are german music acts

Casper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeMLX5gvscg)
Clueso (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToCpwtxOJMY)

Both are really really hard to spot for me. Any insights would be appreciated.



Fiona Apple is a 6w7 who gets types as a Four.
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transformer
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  9:46:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit transformer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"He's a 9. Nowhere in the vicinity of 4w5.

Too still and affectless to be a 7w6." DFGray

The ONLY possible alternative I can see for Beck would be a sx 9, but he seems to off kilter and weird to be a 9. I still think 4w5 fits him far better than 9.

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skunk
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  9:55:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit skunk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dfgray44

He's a 9. Nowhere in the vicinity of 4w5.









doesn't strike me as a 4w5 either. closer to Chris Martin or someone.
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Timo84
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Posted - 14 Jun 2012 :  10:03:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Timo84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hard for me to narrow him down on one type but he definetely is no 9. He is too different from typical "fitting in by not standing out" 9ish behaviour.
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Desdemona
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Posted - 15 Jun 2012 :  12:51:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by May Hem

You posted a new picture! very nice photo



Thanks. Yes, I cut my hairs. This one and another are on FB, if you want to look.


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Desdemona
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Posted - 15 Jun 2012 :  01:01:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Timo84

Hard for me to narrow him down on one type but he definetely is no 9. He is too different from typical "fitting in by not standing out" 9ish behaviour.



I've never heard this about 9's. I thought that was said about 6's, the "tallest poppy syndrome". I've seen 9's stand out.


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Stormy
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Posted - 15 Jun 2012 :  01:30:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desdemona

quote:
Originally posted by Timo84

Hard for me to narrow him down on one type but he definetely is no 9. He is too different from typical "fitting in by not standing out" 9ish behaviour.


I've never heard this about 9's. I thought that was said about 6's, the "tallest poppy syndrome".


"Self-effacement becomes the main way by which average Nines blend in with their peers and minimize risk of conflicts. In contrast to Threes, who want to be outstanding in their social roles, average Nines do not want to stand out, lest they draw fire."
- Riso and Hudson, "Personality Types", pg.354

R&H sometimes mis-attribute that part of E9 to E6 (typically under "phobic"), though.

- [Stormy]
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Desdemona
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Posted - 15 Jun 2012 :  01:38:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stormy
"Self-effacement becomes the main way by which average Nines blend in with their peers and minimize risk of conflicts. In contrast to Threes, who want to be outstanding in their social roles, average Nines do not want to stand out, lest they draw fire."
- Riso and Hudson, "Personality Types", pg.354

R&H sometimes mis-attribute that part of E9 to E6 (typically under "phobic"), though.

- [Stormy]



I can see the self-effacement thing, but that seems a bit different to me than standing out or not. There are other ways to stand out besides being a braggart/egocentric/attention hog. I'm talking more about the sort of quirky flair some 9's have. Also, I've seen 9's do some very unexpected and off the wall sorts of things. They were always self-effacing, though. Except a couple, when they'd connect to 3. Seems like 9w1's especially can get a real ego centered around how morally correct they are, a holier-than-thou kind of thing.


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Edited by - Desdemona on 15 Jun 2012 01:42:58 AM
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Stormy
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Posted - 15 Jun 2012 :  03:05:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desdemona

quote:
Originally posted by Stormy
"Self-effacement becomes the main way by which average Nines blend in with their peers and minimize risk of conflicts. In contrast to Threes, who want to be outstanding in their social roles, average Nines do not want to stand out, lest they draw fire."
- Riso and Hudson, "Personality Types", pg.354

R&H sometimes mis-attribute that part of E9 to E6 (typically under "phobic"), though.


I can see the self-effacement thing, but that seems a bit different to me than standing out or not. There are other ways to stand out besides being a braggart/egocentric/attention hog. I'm talking more about the sort of quirky flair some 9's have. Also, I've seen 9's do some very unexpected and off the wall sorts of things.


More than E6s?
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- [Stormy]
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Kate
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Posted - 16 Jun 2012 :  03:07:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kate's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dfgray44

He's a 9. Nowhere in the vicinity of 4w5.

Too still and affectless to be a 7w6.








That's not affectless, that's a disaffected act.



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