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whitelila
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 Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 12:57:07 PM
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No. i'll just give you many kisses on the nose.
after awhile you will hiss.
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Stormy
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 5:11:23 PM
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Originally posted by whitelila
The core motivations of type 3 is an abandonment of self to gain approval and advancement. There is a lack of authenticity focus when a person will wear any mask in order to blend in and mirror.
Except for the advancement bit, that sounds more 9ish than 3ish; E3s are as much about standing-out as blending-in.
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oceanlife
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 5:18:38 PM
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Originally posted by Stormy
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Originally posted by whitelila
The core motivations of type 3 is an abandonment of self to gain approval and advancement. There is a lack of authenticity focus when a person will wear any mask in order to blend in and mirror.
Except for the advancement bit, that sounds more 9ish than 3ish; E3s are as much about standing-out as blending-in.
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Right, been reading 9 level 4: 'where 3's want to stand out in their groups, 9's want to blend in and not make a scene.'
Unless this is just a naive claim, for me, I feel very much on the outside, then I'll come in front of a group and very quickly *wish* to stand out. And that's grown over the years. It's like: If I'm gonna be here, I want to be seen and applauded for 'me' (metaphorically too). If not I'm outa here. I personalize the perceived lack of acceptance, like I'm all wrong for done reason that I need to know. |
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oceanlife
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 5:51:35 PM
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whitelila
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 6:30:29 PM
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E3s are as much about standing-out as blending-in.
3w2's will mirror in the extreme, part of that is so that they will be accepted. ever read the book - How to Win Friends and Influence People? If people think you are "one of them" they are more likely to advance you - re: back you, on your climb up.
so yes, they are a combo.
Keep in mind 3-6-9 are all connected. |
Edited by - whitelila on 03 Jun 2012 6:39:48 PM |
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enneathing
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 6:50:06 PM
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Originally posted by dusty
I take this as a not so indirect message you would love to kick me out of the 4w5 camp.
Nope, I'm afraid I'm stuck there.  |
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Stormy
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 6:53:56 PM
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Originally posted by whitelila
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Originally posted by Stormy
E3s are as much about standing-out as blending-in.
3w2's will mirror in the extreme, part of that is so that they will be accepted. ever read the book - How to Win Friends and Influence People? If people think you are "one of them" they are more likely to advance you - re: back you, on your climb up.
True - I just think E3 blends-in more as a means towards standing-out, as opposed to blending-in being an end in itself, as for E9.
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Originally posted by whitelila
Keep in mind 3-6-9 are all connected.
E3: stand-out
E6: fend-off
E9: blend-in
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Edited by - Stormy on 03 Jun 2012 6:58:30 PM |
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dusty
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 7:12:03 PM
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Originally posted by enneathing
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Originally posted by dusty
I take this as a not so indirect message you would love to kick me out of the 4w5 camp.
Nope, I'm afraid I'm stuck there.
No... actually, you weren't even on my mind when I wrote that. I already told you I agree with your self-typing. |
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dusty
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 7:14:07 PM
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Originally posted by whitelila
No. i'll just give you many kisses on the nose.
after awhile you will hiss.
lol
lol, that sounds better than the shame and ridicule. I'll take it. |
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Desdemona
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 : 8:20:55 PM
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Originally posted by dusty
What's sad is they really don't seem to get how silly they look, going on like this. At least the ones from typewatch that have come over here look ridiculous.
Several posters are members of both boards, and most started out on the EIDB. I post on both myself, though I'm more often here. I do agree that many there seem to have a overly-specific views on certain types/fixes, though. I don't think all of them do.
7w6cp Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
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whitelila
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 01:13:15 AM
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lol, that sounds better than the shame and ridicule. I'll take it.
But while i kiss you on the nose, many, many times.. i'll be wearing this mask...
http://www.amazon.com/mka-Celebrity-Masks-Johnny-Depp/dp/B004B95OB6/ref=sr_1_[blocked]mr0_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1338786682&sr=1-1-[blocked]mr0
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Lake
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 5:27:23 PM
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Originally posted by whitelila
There are a lot of good people who never get close because their is a failed connection. They prove too much of something which is not cool or fun, at least by my standards.
oh, I get the 'not cool or fun' part now. that was about sx-- like someone can be a 'good' person, but not sx-y to you for whatever reason.
i think this is where you and i often diverge.
*it's not about finding yourself, it's about realizing who you've been all along. |
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dfgray44
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 : 5:57:45 PM
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Originally posted by dfgray44
I won't and I shan't. Let me help you now and I will trust you and we'll be done with it. I only pray they haven't doomed the poor girl.
Show me your credentials first, good sir!
My credentials appear on a tablet of crysalite which I have never laid eyes on, and which remains under lock and key in a mausoleum dug under a spiraled cathedral in lovely downtown Constantinople On Avon. Angels burrow their way down to this hallowed encasement and vainly attempt to suture their wings to it, such is their ardent desire in relation to me.
And who told you I need help?
No one, it's written all over your space.
Why do people keep saying that?!
People say that because they have voices to speak. It is a bestowal of universal grace that plants and animals can only bear witness and hold their plaint within their mind's eye's judging function.
I'm a normal, highly rational, slightly dysfunctional human being. I lose it here and there, but I'm not crazy, I tell you, not crazy at all!
I went 'here and there' and witnessed what you describe. Tortured moments etched in furniture, branded hot into the twisted rubble of a failed infrastructure.
You can trust me but why be done with it so soon?
For the hounds are closing in on the approach and the Sun dips fast now toward the extinguishing ground.
And who pray tell, is this "they" you speak of?
Clarice Starling and that awful Jack Crawford, of course.
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Odyssey
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 : 01:01:45 AM
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Originally posted by whitelila
I think she is a 6 who is in 3/9 limbo.
One could infer from this blanket commentary that the limbo is located in your brain, at the moment.
I don't know too many 3's that would admit viewing other humans as Kleenex to use and get things out of.
However, a 6w5 will say "shocking" things when playing devil's advocate.
Remeber Oddy is the woman who said first page how 6's seek acceptice and blend into groups like sugar with coffee.
If you read my first post, you will see that I said:
"Sixes can blend in like sugar in hot coffee."
Notice the word "can": they can, if they want to. It doesn't mean that they necessarily want to. But if they want to, they can.
I don't believe that 6s have acceptance problems. Likability is one of the few upsides of the type.
She then turns around and paints herself in a way to insure alienation from many.
She is thought provoking, i guess. However, I'm also a 6 which can strip down others into the lizard. I'm aware that i do it as a defense mechanism, and by doing it i'm taking away their magic from my own eyes and heart.
Oddy is the cynical lizard. You are the BanefulHydrae.
you are both 6's, but while you have a 4 fix, she has a 3 fix. I'm a 6 with a 2 fix.. but it is a 2 with a whole hell of a lot of 4.
anyway, i become attached to my groups too. I relate to you very much, and welcome to the board.
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whitelila
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 : 03:34:27 AM
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One could infer from this blanket commentary that the limbo is located in your brain, at the moment.
You have a real need to paint other women you don't agree with as stupid. that seems to be an image hang-up of yours. It is old though, repetitive, boring. You become boring to me. change up your put downs from time to time, it shows mental engagement. It lets me know you are "with me", and not on automatic.
But any way.. you can be a 3 if you want. What do I care? I was just saying you were a 6 who was sliding between 9 and 3.
If i'm wrong, that is nothing.
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To expect or demand that others accept me for who I am would be an odd thing, considering that I can hardly keep a straight line when it comes to being me. I guess if I were to define me it would be "someone who cannot stand to be the same person two days in a row".
rock on.
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If you read my first post, you will see that I said:
"Sixes can blend in like sugar in hot coffee."
Notice the word "can": they can, if they want to. It doesn't mean that they necessarily want to. But if they want to, they can.
Ok, maybe, but their are some unhealty 6's who might have a hard time blending in like sugar in hot coffee, even if they seek acceptance. People often thwart themselves. 6's by no means are an exception.
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I don't believe that 6s have acceptance problems. Likability is one of the few upsides of the type.
It surely is not for some of them. some 6's can be horrible.
BTW, A person might want to avoid "blanket commentary" when a few sentences before they mark it as a kind of brain disfunctioning problem. lol |
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BADMAN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 02:11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Corruption
When I was posting at Typewatch (2010-end 2011) they were still promoting what I considered to be an overly-narrow definition of E4. I don't think it really helped that site 'guru' Sniper self typed as a 4w5-fixed 8w7.
Jase's lackey sniper is a joke... Heck, I could call him my lackey. Let's not forget that he ripped off the main points in his type 8 description from stuff I was writing back in '04-'05 on the eidb (then tries to pass it off like it's about himself)...Click the link and scroll down to see the paper trail.
the slam dunk skunk...
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BADMAN
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 03:11:42 AM
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Originally posted by dusty
What's sad is they really don't seem to get how silly they look, going on like this. At least the ones from typewatch that have come over here look ridiculous. What is so important about 4 and 5 and 8 and the sexual instinct and certain tritypes that they feel the need to stand guard and protect their sanctity? They have these weird worshipful unrealistic ideas about certain types, stacks, etc. Why elevate these categories to quasi godhood? I don't get it. I've only been exposed to a handful of the typewatchers and even I can see how bizarre their pathetic fanboy culture is.
The personality of Typewatch is prussian 6w5...land of the we make up whatever the fck we want to rationalize our bizarre suspicions of other people's typings. Typewatch is a bit like Neighborhoodwatch in that respect. sniper is the George Zimmerman...the neighborhoodtypewatch.
the slam dunk skunk...
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skunk
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 03:37:46 AM
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| The Typewatchers have been watching us for a long time. They visit us periodically. They come in their spaceships. They come in the middle of the night and drug and subdue target specimens whom they have been watching. They work them into an hysteria. They work them into a state of confusion and disorientation. Then they take them onboard their spaceship and they have sex with them. Several of them have sex with them. While the sex is happening other Typewatchers are taking notes on their clipboards. The victim does not know that this is what is happening at the time bit it is. The victim simply feels as if they are having their sense of self scrutinised in front of people whom they do not know and cannot quite see. It is an unnerving experience. When the victim wakes up they feel strange and groggy. They wake up beside a rural road in the early morning with little trace of their experience save a patch of burnt grass in a nearby field caused by a rocket blast. Meanwhile the victim's emotional responses are already being analysed and computed and scrutinised in a laboratory hurtling along somewhere past Jupiter. Bug-eyed creatures pore over data on pulse rates and electroencophalograph readings that scientifically probe subconscious reactions to the experience. The victims life is shattered of course, but the Typewatchers do not see it that way. For them, interbreeding is key to their social structure as a species. It is perfectly normal to them. Because most of them are Fives they are not subject to the emotional vulnerabilities of homo sapiens and do not sympathise with them. Public group sex is a rational response to the problem of maximising reproductive success and confirming parenthood in a small community. This ensures the preservation of elite status and also identifies earthlings who might be suitable for admission to such a group. Those earthlings who prove sexually submissive are deemed possible Typewatch material. The key to the elitism of Typewatch is the ritualistic solemnity with which they maintain their fraternalistic sexual relations. All Typewatchers have had sex with each other and this is necessarily so. If there is to be a chance of peace between our two cultures, we earthlings must try to understand this. |
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Odyssey
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 04:11:06 AM
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To Lila:
I cherish the day when I become so boring to you that you no longer feel the need to address me.
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whitelila
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 12:57:29 PM
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Oh, I'm too assertive to allow my 7 wing fixation to get in the way of our attraction.
you, me.. on a bed of nails..
I can taste the lizard blood on my lips already.
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Thank you for the warm welcome, lovely Lila. I wonder if we share gut fix as well although I suspect you are far more social than I.
I'm your warm pink little welcome bunny. 
In the land of the blind the one eye man is king.
I have no idea what any of the stackings mean anymore. i've never been hung up on the concept of them anyway.
I might rename myself social first. that could be fun. |
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Stormy
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 1:57:02 PM
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Originally posted by whitelila
I have no idea what any of the stackings mean anymore. i've never been hung up on the concept of them anyway.
I might rename myself social first. that could be fun.
Do you still relate to any of these:
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Originally posted by Veiled One
sp/soc: The most straightfoward in language, with relatively little trills and embellishments. Points made directly and from personal experience. Business-like. Clear. Cynical. Lacking in internal experience compared to other stackings.
sp/sx: Comes out as somewhat heavy and gloomy, or cool and detached. Often gives out a suffocating and insular vibe, as if their internal world is wrapped around by an impermeable membrane. Strong sensory impressions designed to awake sexuality. Makes one want to linger on one or two lines forever.
soc/sp: Tangential. Lots of details and analysis. Very in-their-head and intellectual, and lacks sensuality. Comes across as level-headed and unspontaneous, but also with personal warmth. Their written works often require a great deal of mental concentration from the readers.
soc/sx: The word "fantastical" comes to mind. Lots of virtuosity and trills, and often removed from the real world. One is whirled away by the dazzling fairies of their colorful imagination. Can be too rich in imagery for their own good. Sustained dramatic power due to their knowledge of interpersonal dynamics.
sx/sp: Intense, often a stab-in-the-chest sensation, leaving me in tears without knowing why. Fantastical but much more concentrated in a few inner images. Can be abstract, animating dead objects into their field of contemplation. Embodiment of another human, thing, or idea is common in their writings.
sx/soc: My impression of their writing is "fire-and-ice", as if one is to experience the extremes of heat and coldness at the same time. Often abstract, spilling one inner vision after another like a dream-sequence. Seems particularly in touch with the core meaning of life and death.
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whitelila
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 2:24:40 PM
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Well, take BanefulHydrae, she seems to have a lot of vivid metaphorical writing ability, seems so/sx as DF pointed out, but she claims very little social. Now that might be a lark, it could be Saintly who also called me Lovely Lila, but lets say it is not Saintly, is her focus on "not being accepted" an old school understanding of the social instinct and not a type 4 thing, which some have claimed on this thread? Could it be she is "scoial first" by the older definition? If so then what VO wrote fits with her writing style as well.
Evcen though bh thinks she is social last it could be that she does not understand that neurotic over focus can be the tell-tell of what is first, even if the instinct seems neglected in action, it is anything but in the mind.
I don't know Stormy. I know that when I hear thaqt Russ is looking into bugs to help define human instincts I start to think Russ is at level 6 and has gone down the rabbit hole. lol
i visit the rabbit hole often, but I know it is a hole. Does he?
You know the vampire books that speak of the 500 year old living undead seeking out a younger companion so that they may learn the ways of the next generations in order to remain relevant...
i get that, my unicorn is 21, I get what russ is doing,
i get needing to evolove..
attraction/repulsion.. i get that for sx first.. i'm there. Or, so i have been told all my life. which is always a mixed sexual come on. "thanks". lol
but..
i don't know. i just don't know.
you also have no idea of the work involved with typing on my keyboatd, and fixing thjne word mangle. I need tpo buy a new key board already,.. but i'm in a bit of an agoraphobic cycke. I'm sick of fixibg. |
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dusty
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Posted - 06 Jun 2012 : 3:16:56 PM
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Originally posted by BADMAN
The personality of Typewatch is prussian 6w5...land of the we make up whatever the fck we want to rationalize our bizarre suspicions of other people's typings.
Yeah, that's pretty much it. |
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