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peatstack
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Posted - 17 Aug 2011 :  8:26:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit peatstack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When i stay with friends and use milk for my coffee in the morning from their refrigerator, i leave money in the fridge for them to buy more milk - that i am clean with even the most tiny burden of obligation they might place on me.. i pay my way in every minute detail.. no entanglements.

I don't stay with friends - hotels have less obligation. I'd rather sleep in my car than owe a friend money. Its a difficult question really, as if you really know an SP5 - they'll not exist to you, you won't have any "in" on them. So by my estimate, if you're dealing with an so, or a sx, they'll be in your face with something, but an sp will be not-there.. no manipulation points, no chips for abuse, no openings for attack; not there. That is, unless you are a truly loving spiritually awake being, and then not-there is only physical.

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enneathing
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  10:49:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit enneathing's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sp/sx has a kind of transparency that sp/so doesn't have. the transparency of sp/sx is similar to that of sx/so, except sp/sx isn't a deliberate exhibitionist.

'Transparent' as in the lack of a social mask.

A distinct lack of tact, is characteristic of soc-lasts.

Whereas, sp/soc is much more tactful and weary of looking like a jerk.
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enneathing
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Posted - 13 Jul 2012 :  10:53:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit enneathing's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by enneathing

sp/sx has a kind of transparency that sp/so doesn't have. the transparency of sp/sx is similar to that of sx/so, except sp/sx isn't a deliberate exhibitionist.

'Transparent' as in the lack of a social mask.

A distinct lack of tact, is characteristic of soc-lasts.




Yes, though 'transparent' may not be the right word... but yes, lack of a social mask, as in, easier to read.
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transformer
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Posted - 13 Jul 2012 :  3:05:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit transformer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If sp/sx is more "transparent" or "easy to read" than sp/so, then Im probably a sp/sx. People can tell when Im upset instantly and I feel they can see through more than other people.
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Rickstone
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Posted - 13 Jul 2012 :  8:06:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rickstone's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by enneathing

quote:
Originally posted by enneathing


sp/sx has a kind of transparency that sp/so doesn't have. the transparency of sp/sx is similar to that of sx/so, except sp/sx isn't a deliberate exhibitionist.

'Transparent' as in the lack of a social mask.

A distinct lack of tact, is characteristic of soc-lasts.




Yes, though 'transparent' may not be the right word... but yes, lack of a social mask, as in, easier to read.



Seems interesting your correlation with sp/sx and sx/so.
But what's that similarity between those two stackings???

Edited by - Rickstone on 13 Jul 2012 8:11:16 PM
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enneathing
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  2:48:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit enneathing's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think so/sp, sp/sx, sx/so all have a similarity; they tend to be the least 'pure' or typical in their first instinct - as in, the first instinct might be less obvious in how it expresses itself, not actually seeming like a main focus.

Similarities -

so/sp, sp/sx - self-contained, quiet, reserved, insular, keeps to themselves
so/sp, sx/so - 'political'; focus is more 'out there' and of the world
sp/sx, sx/so - blunt/direct communication style, also a more fiery, 'wild', uncontrolled bent in some. (sp/sx can be insular, yet unrestrained and chaotic)

In very general terms -

sp/sx - disorder/chaos
sp/so - order]

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transformer
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  2:52:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit transformer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"sp/sx - disorder/chaos
sp/so - order]"

Great. Just when I start to see myself as sp/sx, another thing comes along to make me think I might be sp/so. I'm very into "order." I have OCD, I like doing things in a linear fashion, and I'm think organization is very important in life. Here we go again.

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enneathing
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  2:56:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit enneathing's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Maybe you're a 1 fixer?
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Desdemona
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  3:25:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Desdemona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by transformer

"sp/sx - disorder/chaos
sp/so - order]"

Great. Just when I start to see myself as sp/sx, another thing comes along to make me think I might be sp/so. I'm very into "order." I have OCD, I like doing things in a linear fashion, and I'm think organization is very important in life. Here we go again.



It depends a lot on other factors as well, particularly core type. I've know some sp/sx's to be comparatively restrained and ordered.



7w6cp Sx/sp
ENFP
Dramatic/Mercurial/Adventurous/Idiosyncratic Style
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Rickstone
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Posted - 14 Jul 2012 :  11:17:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rickstone's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by enneathing

I think so/sp, sp/sx, sx/so all have a similarity; they tend to be the least 'pure' or typical in their first instinct - as in, the first instinct might be less obvious in how it expresses itself, not actually seeming like a main focus.

Similarities -

so/sp, sp/sx - self-contained, quiet, reserved, insular, keeps to themselves
so/sp, sx/so - 'political'; focus is more 'out there' and of the world
sp/sx, sx/so - blunt/direct communication style, also a more fiery, 'wild', uncontrolled bent in some. (sp/sx can be insular, yet unrestrained and chaotic)

In very general terms -

sp/sx - disorder/chaos
sp/so - order]






Oh i see
Interesting

Thanks
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BADMAN
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  10:21:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit BADMAN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sp/sx has a better tracking ability for people's underbelly.





the slam dunk skunk...

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BADMAN
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  1:09:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit BADMAN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sp/so generalizes people more...




the slam dunk skunk...

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Stormy
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  1:15:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit Stormy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BADMAN

sp/so generalizes people more...


Your type would say that.

- [Stormy]
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BADMAN
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  2:50:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit BADMAN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stormy

quote:
Originally posted by BADMAN

sp/so generalizes people more...


Your type would say that.

- [Stormy]


Good example of a SP/SO Stormy using dry humor to poke fun at himself and his stack with (and to illustrate my point)...




the slam dunk skunk...


Edited by - BADMAN on 24 Jul 2012 4:59:24 PM
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BADMAN
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  3:06:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit BADMAN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
SP/SOs do tend to have a more generalized sense of humor ime than SP/SX...

same can probably be said for SO/SP and SO/SX...




the slam dunk skunk...

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BADMAN
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  3:41:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit BADMAN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Few more differences...SP/SO is more of a "common sense" thinker and doer than SP/SX...

more of a natural and "matter of fact" understanding for economic stuff.

more draw towards practical know-how and realism...tends to be cut and dry about things ("a is a b is b...end of story")

and they don't have much modulation in their energy that a sx-second does...SP/SO is very, very consistent.




the slam dunk skunk...

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dusty
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  5:04:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit dusty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mermaid

sp/sx here, and this is simply because I've valued strong, intense (and often unhealthy) relationships with one person. It's changed throughout my entire life. My goal was always to find that soulmate, someone else to connect with and be "complete" with. I've never thought of myself as part of a community or any social circle, nor do I care to be known in any way, shape, or form. What I want is to be thoroughly connected and most important to my soulmate. I love the rush that comes with falling in love (I've only felt it twice), it's absolutely breath-taking... and overwhelming. I tend to stop eating, lol, but being lovesick is like remembering why you're alive.


_____________


At least she’s all mermaid: never gets tired of swimming, hates the thought of socks.

    [*]9w1
    [*]954
    [*]sx/sp
    [*]INFP




I'm confused as to why you are typing as sp/sx with this self-description. But your sig says sx/sp so maybe that's what you mean?
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sappy
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  6:16:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit sappy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think she first thought sx/sp and then changed to sp-first. I spot a pattern.

Maybe you're confused because she's hawt.
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Timo84
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  6:28:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit Timo84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mermaid, from your pictures/video... I tend to see you as sx/sp.
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dusty
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  6:47:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit dusty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sappy

I think she first thought sx/sp and then changed to sp-first. I spot a pattern.

Maybe you're confused because she's hawt.



lol sappy, I think I'm confused because of the actual inconsistencies, although being blinded by hawtness can also be disorienting. What pattern are you spotting? Based on the vid I tend to agree with the people saying sp/so.
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skyboy
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  6:59:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit skyboy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mermaid, sx/sp for me too.

The first instinct is what is the most important, the most developed for a person and at the same time where imbalance and ego are the most visible, sometimes leading to extreme or apparently "absurd" behaviours.

Ex: An SP/SX 9w8 friend is addicted to his own life habits, body-building, dependant on diets... his "perfect body health" is actually threatening to create severe health issues. He knows he's addicted to all this, but has no idea about how he could get out of it. He has built his own jail.

4w5 SP/SO (Tritype 451)
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sappy
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  7:06:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit sappy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it's interesting what people see from such a short video. The differences, in particular.

Dusty, I'm not sure what I meant.
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sappy
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  7:14:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit sappy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
skyboy, I met a teacher at a language class (adult evening school) who vibed like a 9, he said he can't sit still for half an hour, but he can go to the gym for 4 hours a day. I think he was also a 9w8, he reminded me a tiny bit of Woody Harrelson.
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skyboy
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  7:47:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit skyboy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sappy

skyboy, I met a teacher at a language class (adult evening school) who vibed like a 9, he said he can't sit still for half an hour, but he can go to the gym for 4 hours a day. I think he was also a 9w8, he reminded me a tiny bit of Woody Harrelson.



That's what my friend needs to do : several hours body-building a day or he feels bad. With driving to the gym room, this is 5 hours a day.

And he's a teacher too !

4w5 SP/SO (Tritype 451)
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sappy
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  8:07:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit sappy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do you know a 9w1 who goes to a gym? I briefly knew a female (9w1), very very beautiful and I believe she also went to a gym. Probably not for four hours a day, but still..
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