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Riley
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 :  9:56:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Riley's Homepage  Reply with Quote
savory mentioned Kibbe types in the Fashion Thread, so I thought I'd start a new thread for anyone who wanted to explore them.

quote:
from David Kibbe's Metamorphosis

Kibbe Type Descriptors

Dramatic:
Stunning and Majestic

Soft Dramatic:
Bold and Sensual

Romantic:
Lushly Feminine

Theatrical Romantic:
Utterly Feminine and Shimmering

Classic:
Elegant and Sophisticated

Dramatic Classic:
Striking

Soft Classic:
Radiantly Elegant

Natural:
Refreshing and Vibrant

Flamboyant Natural:
Wild and Fresh

Soft Natural:
Soft, Fresh and Enchanting

Gamine:
Charmingly Delicate and Crisp

Flamboyant Gamine:
Vibrant and Exciting

Soft Gamine:
Sassily Feminine


Kibbe body types

Dramatic
Straight and angular, may tend to long or sleek musculature (sinewy or lithe.)
Usually have long legs and arms.
Narrow in width.

Gamine
Straight.
Lithe and lean, tends toward sinewy musculature.
Tends toward flatness in bust and hips (unless overweight).
May be very leggy (coltish).
Possibility of being slightly short-waisted.

Natural
Straight and muscular.
Lean and slightly lithe.
Flat hips ans slightly flat bustline.
Slightly long arms and legs.
Possibly long-waisted

Classic
Evenly proportioned bust, waist, and hips.
Slightly lithe and sinewy musculature.
Moderate to slightly long limbs.

Romantic
Soft and voluptuous.
Hourglass figure; curvy (bustline and hips, with a small waist (in proportion to the curves).
Fleshy arms and legs.

Softened archetypes

Soft Dramatic
Fleshy (unless ultrathin), particularly through the bust and hip area.
Usually have long legs and arms, which can become fleshy in the upper arm and thigh areas without exercise.
Usually have moderate-sized waist, which can become thick.

Soft Gamine
Soft, curvy body tends towards fleshiness.
Curved bustline and hips with some natural waist definition.
Arms and legs tend to be soft and fleshy, particularly through the hip and thigh areas.

Soft Natural
Slightly soft, tends towards fleshiness.
Slightly small waist that's in proportion to bust and hips.
Slightly curvy, tends to an hourglass shape, but not extremely so.
Slightly fleshy upper arms and thighs

Soft Classic
Slightly rounded, tends to slight fleshiness.
Soft arms, thighs, and waistline.
Evenly proportioned bust, waist, and hips.
Possibility of being slightly short-waisted.
Arms and legs tend to be moderately short (in proportion to height).

Yang'ed archetypes

Flamboyant Gamine
Very defined musculature (unless overweight).
Lean and strong.
Straight lines (flat bustline and hips) unless overweight.
Tendency toward a leggy look (coltish).

Flamboyant Natural
Straight and angular (broad, not sharp).
Arms and legs tend toward musculature.
Bust and hips tend to be flat or straight (unless very overweight).

Dramatic Classic
Fairly trim and compact when at an ideal weight.
Slightly muscular when at ideal weight.
Bustline, waist and hips are somewhat straight and in even proportion when at ideal weight.
On occasion slightly short-waisted.
Legs and arms tend to be average or slightly long.
Your body type will seem to radically change when you gain even a little weight. This is actually an illusion because your bone structure remains the same.

Theatrical Romantic
Soft and voluptuous, although trim and smallish (as opposed to wide and bulky).
Hourglass figure;curvy bustline and hips with a waspish waist.
Soft or fleshy arms and legs.



Facial features of the Kibbe types

The Archetypes

Dramatic
Straight, sleek lines.
Sloe or almond eyes.
Narrow, thin or straight lips.
Taut skin, especially around the cheek and jaw areas.

Gamine
Large eyes.
Moderate to thin lips (narrow or straight, as opposed to full).
Taut cheeks and flesh.

Natural
Slightly broads, blunt, or irregular.
Moderate to small eyes.
Taut cheeks.
Slightly wide features (open).
Straight, slightly thin lips.

Classic
Chiseled, symmetrical and evenly spaced.

Romantic
Lush; full, and sensual (rounded).
Large, luminous eyes.
Full lips.
Fleshy cheeks.

Softened archetypes

Soft Dramatic
Full, lush, sensual, and exotic.
Large eyes, full lips, fleshy cheeks.

Soft Gamine
Doll-like facial features (saucer-eyes, round and fleshy cheeks, full lips).
Facial shape may be very rounded, and it can have a slightly sharp or slightly strong jawline.

Soft Natural
Full and rounded.
Round eyes, full lips, soft cheeks.
Nose tends to be small and wide, or slightly irregular (blunt or wide).

Soft Classic
Soft and full, slightly fleshy.
Large eyes, soft cheeks, full lips.
Symmetrical and evenly spaced.

Yang'ed archetypes

Flamboyant Gamine
Usually have extremely large eyes.
Usually have a broad or long facial shape (may be very round or slightly oblong).
Facial flesh tends to be taut, unless overweight.
Lips are frequently moderate to full.

Flamboyant Natural
Broad, blunt and open.
Eyes may be very large and open or very straight and small.
Lips will be straight and slightly thin.
Cheeks will usually be taut, unless overweight.

Dramatic Classic
Usually moderate to large eyes, moderate lips.

Theatrical Romantic
Soft and lush.
Large, luminous eyes(sometimes slightly upturned, sometimes slightly "bedroom").
Full, luscious lips.
Soft cheeks.



Kibbe bone structure descriptions

Dramatic
Angular, with sharp edges.
Usually have square shoulders (may be narrow).
Hands and feet are usually long and narrow.
Facial bones are sharp or prominent (nose, jawline, cheekbones).
Sometimes, the bone structure is called "delicate" because of its narrowness. This is actually not true, for example length keeps it from being truly delicate. A more helpful description would be "sleek."

Gamine
Angular.
Sharp.
Narrow - sometimes described as delicate.
Square or tapered shoulders (tend to narrowness, as opposed to broad).
Delicately sharp facial contours (nose, jaw, cheekbones).
Hands and feet are moderate to small, and tend to narrowness.
Arms and legs tend to be long.

Natural
Slightly straight.
Slightly angular with blunt edges (as opposed to sharp).
Slightly squarish.
Broad shoulders.
Blunt angular facial contours (nose, jawline, cheekbones).
Hands and feet are moderate to slightly large and squarish.

Classic
Symmetrical, with a tendency towards slight sharpness.
Slightly angular.
Slightly straight.
Tapered shoulders.
Moderately sized hands and feet.

Romantic
Delicate and smallish.
Usually to the wide side.
Rounded or sloped shoulders.
Small hand and feet (may be slightly wide).
Facial bones are small, delicate and may be slgihtly wide or lush (nose, cheekbones, jawline).
If your bone structure is slightly wide or lush, you may think of yorself as having a large bone structure. This is actually decdeving to you, for the shortness of your limbs and extremeties (hand and feet) offsets the width. In context of your overall voluptuous figure, your bone structure is defintely delicate

Softened archetypes

Soft Dramatic
Large and angular.
Long limbs, and large hands and feet (may be long or narrow, or wide).
Facial bones are prominent or sharp (nose, cheekbones, jawline).
If your bone sturcure is narrow (particularly the shoulders, hands, feet, wrists, or angles), you may think of yourself as delicate. This is not true, for the exteme length offsets the narrowness.

Soft Gamine
Delicate and small, yet slightly broad and angular.
Angular edges, particularly through the shoulders (square or tapered).
Small hands and feet (may be slightly wide or fleshy).
Delicately broad facial contours (nose, cheekbones, and jawline - which may have extra bits of angularity).
Arms and legs tend to be shortish (in proportion to height).

Soft Natural
Slightly angular bones.
Slightly square or broad shoulders.
Moderate to slightly short limbs (slightly leggy look also possible).
Slightly blunt, or small and irregular facial contours (nose, cheekbones, and jawline).
Hands and feet are moderate and fleshy, or slightly small and wide.

Soft Classic
Symmetrical, with soft or slightly rounded edges.
Straight and slightly delicate.
May be small and sligthly wide (but with soft edges, not square).
Shoulder are tapered or slightly sloped.
Facial contours are slightly small and wide (nose, cheekbones, and jawline).
Hand and feet tend to be moderate to small and slightly wide.

Yang'ed archetypes

Flamboyant Gamine
Broadly angular.
Square shoulders.
Slightly wide bones.
Large hands and feet, in proportion to height (if very petite, hands and feet tend to be short, but wide and square).
Slightly sharp or broad facial contours (nose, jawline, cheekbones).
Arms and legs may be long, in proportion to height (if very petite, they appear to be slightly squarish).
Facial contours tend to be broad (nose, cheekbones, jawline).

Flamboyant Natural
Large and angular with blunt edges.
Broad and square bones.
Wide shoulders.
Long arms and legs.
Large hands and feet (usually somewhat wide, but they may also be narrow, with long fingers and toes).
Broad or prominent facial contours (nose, cheeks, jaw - blunt, not sharp).

Dramatic Classic
Symmetrical, with slightly angular edges.
Straight and slightly wide.
Shoulders are tapered or slightly square, usually narrow.
Slightly squarish hands and feet.
Slightly sharp, angluar or squarish facial contours (jawline, nose, cheekbones).

Theatrical Romantic
Small and delicate.
Slightly sharp edges (shoulders, jawline, cheekbones, or nose).
Small hands and feet (in proportion to height).
Facial Bones are small, delicate, and slightly sharp



David Kibbe's Metamorphosis example test

Bone Structure

My vertical line is (not your height; we're looking for how tall you appear to be):
a. Long (People always think I'm taller than I really am.)
b. Moderately Long (People sometimes guess I'm slightly taller, but not by very much.)
c. Moderate (People usually guess my height correctly, or aren't at all surprised by it)
d. Smallish (People usually guess I'm slightly smaller, and my curvy figure is more noticeable than my height.)
e. Petite (It's very obvious to everyone that I am small in stature.)

The shape of my shoulders is best described as:
a. Narrow, sharp
b. Broad, blunt
c. Symmetrical, even
d. Sloped, but tapered
e. Sloped and rounded

The length of my arms and legs are best described as:
a. Elongated, narrow
b. Elongated, broad
c. Moderate, in even proportion to my height and upper torso
d. Small, slightly shortish
e. Small, very short in proportion to my height and upper torso

The size and shape of my hands and fee are best described as:
a. Long and narrow
b. Large and broad
c. Moderate, neither long, broad, delicate nor small
d. Small, narrow, delicate
e. Small and slight wide

Body Type (Flesh)

The overall shape of my body is best described as:
a. Long, lean, sinewy
b. Broad, tending toward muscular
c. Symmetrical, evenly proportioned
d. Very shapely, a delicate hourglass
e. Very soft, lushly curved, a ripe hourglass

My bustline/torso is best described as:
a. Flat, taut (I never seem to add flesh here, even when I'm overweight.)
b. Wide, broad (I tend to add a little flesh here when overweight, but not much
c. Moderate, in even proportion to my waist and hips
d. Shapely, curved, more prominent than my wasitline (My torso is slightly short and I add flesh here, when overweight.)
e. Very prominent, lushly curved (Whether I'm thin or heavy, I'm always "busty.")

My waistline is best described as:
a. Elongated, but boyishly tapered (This is true even when I'm overweight.)
b. Elongated, but tends to be very straight (if thin) or thick (if overweight)
c. Moderate, slightly defined, but not overly cinched
d. Very small, in proportion to my bust and hips
e. Softly defined, but tends to be slightly wide

My hipline could best be described as:
a. Tapered, straight, and boyishly narrow (However, I do tend to thicken here when I'm overweight.)
b. Straight, slightly tapered, and slightly wide (Excess weight always seems to collect at my hips.)
c. Moderate, in even proportion to my bust and wasitline
d. Shapely and rounded, more pronounced than my waistline
e. Extremely soft and rounded, whatever my weight

The flesh on my upper arms and thighs could best be described as:
a. Long, lithe, and sinewy
b. Elongated and tending toward muscular
c. Moderate, neither extremely soft nor extremely muscular or sinewy
d. Soft, slightly short
e. Very soft, slightly wide and fleshy

Facial Bones

The shape of my jawline is best described as:
a. Sharp, either very pointed, very prominent, or very square
b. Broad or blunt, slightly wide
c. Moderate, symmetrical, neither wide, sharp, nor rounded
d. Delicate, tapered, or slightly narrow
e. Rounded or softly wide

The shape of my nose is best described as:
a. Sharp or prominent
b. Broad or blunt, but on the large side, possibly wide
c. Moderate, symmetrical, netiher overly large nor overly rounded
d. Delicate, tapered, narrow
e. Rounded or softly wide

The shape of my cheekbones is best described as:
a. High, prominent
b. Wide
c. Symmetrical, moderate
d. Delicate, narrow, slightly rounded
e. Rounded

Facial Features

The shape of my eyes is best described as:
a. Narrow, straight, closely spaced, or almond-shaped
b. Narrow, straight, widely spaced
c. Evenly spaced, symmetrical, moderate size
d. Rounded, slightly close together, possibly slightly almond-shaped or up-turned
e. Very round and very large

The shape of my lips is best described as:
a. Straight, narrow, sometimes described as "thin-lipped."
b. Straight, strong, slightly broad, but not full
c. Moderate, evenly shaped, neither straight nor overly full
d. Slightly full and rounded
e. Very full, very rounded, and very luscious

The flesh on my cheekbones could best be described as:
a. Taut and flat, even when overweight
b. Fairly taut, but I do tend to get a little "puffy" when I put on weight
c. Moderate, soft, but not puffy
d. Soft and fleshy, and may bet extremely full with excess weight
e. Very soft, very fleshy, very round, even when I'm at my thinnest

Hair
a. Extremely finely textured (silky-smooth), either straight or with a slight bend
b. Strongly textured (coarse, heavy, either thick and straight or wavy/curly
c. Moderate texture, slightly wavy or with a bend
d. Moderately thick, with bend, wave, or curl
e. Extremely thick, with lots of wave or curl (with a soft surface)

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How to interpret your results:

Dominant answers in column A:
Extreme, sharp Yang - Dramatic

Dominant answers in column E:
Extreme, soft Yin - Romantic

Dominant answers in column C:
Balanced between the extremes - Classic

Dominant answers in column B:
Soft Yang - Natural

If answers are an even mixture of the extreme opposites of column A and column E:
Combination of opposites - Gamine
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If answers are dominant column A, with several answers in column E as a strong secondary force:
Bold Yang with a pronounced Yin undercurrent - Soft Dramatic
Note: To qualify for this theme, your bone structure should be Yang-dominant while your body type (flesh) and/or your facial features should be primarily Yin.
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If your answers are dominant column E and/or column D, with several answers in column A as a secondary force:
Soft Yin with a slight Yang undercurrent - Theatrical Romantic
Note: To qualify for this theme, your body type (flesh) and your facial features should be Yin-dominant while your bone structure should be slightly Yang-influenced.
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If your answers are dominant column C, with several other answers in columns A and/or B:
Balanced, with a Yang influence - Dramatic Classic
Note: To qualify for this theme, your body type (flesh) and features should be primarily balanced between the extremes of Yin and Yang while your bone structure should be more Yang-influenced.
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If your answers are dominant column C, with several answers in columns D and or E:
Balanced, with a Yin influence - Soft Classic
Note: To qualify for this theme, your bone structure should be primarily balanced between the extremes of Yin and Yang while your body type and facial features should be more Yin-influenced.
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If your answers are dominant column B, with several answers from column A:
Strong Yang with blunt edges - Flamboyant Natural
Note: To qualify for this theme, your bone structure should be extremely Yang-dominant while your body type (flesh) and facial features will be moderately Yang-dominant.
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If your answers are dominant column B, with several answers from columns D and/or E:
Soft Yang, with a Yin undercurrent - Soft Natural
Note: To qualify for this theme, your bone structure should be moderately Yang-dominant while your body type and facial features will be Yin-influenced.
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If your answers have nearly an equal mixture of opposite extremes from columns A and E, while you also have several answers in column B:
Combination of opposites, extra Yang - Flamboyant Gamine
Note: To qualify for this theme, your bone structure and body type (flesh) should be Yang-dominate while your features and stature are Yin-dominate. Your facial bones will be from the strong, Yang side.
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If your answers have nearly an equal mixture of opposite extremes from columns A and E, yet you also have several extra answers in column D:
Combination of opposites, extra Yin - Soft Gamine
Note: To qualify for this theme, your bone structure should be Yang- dominate while your body type (flesh) should be Yin-dominant. Your facial features should be extremely Yin-dominant.


In determining your Yin/Yang balance and resulting Image Identity theme that balance defines you as, don't worry if your readings don't exactly match the profiles given here. The point is one of overall balance on the scale, meaning that there may indeed be slight alterations here or there in your physical makeup. Strive, instead, to define which of the themes you most closely resemble, and use this as your guideline. Don't, however, define youself as a mixture of themes. The themes don't mix.


Here's how the Yin/Yang scale works:

The extreme Yang edge of the Yin/Yang scale is the Dramatic (extreme, sharp Yang), characterized by a straight body type; extremely sharp bone structure; and very straight, narrow, facial features (small eyes, narrow lips, sharp nose and jawline, and prominent cheekbones with taut flesh).

The extreme Yin edge of the Yin/Yang scale is the Romantic (extreme, soft Yin), characterized by a very soft and curvy body type, with a more rounded bone structure (which tends to be slightly wide or full) and very rounded. Lush facial features (large eyes; luscious lips; a soft, slightly full nose and jawline; and fleshy cheeks.

The pure balance between the Yin and Yang extremes is the Classic, characterized by a symmetrical body type, with a tapered, even bone structure (neither overly sharp nor overly full), and very regular evenly spaced, facial features (symmetrical eyes, straight lips, a finely chiseled nose and jawline--but not sharply--and moderate cheekbones.)

The more moderate Yang side of the Yin/Yang scale, falling between the extreme, sharp Yang of the Dramatic and the balance of the Classic, is the Natural, characterized by straight and slightly muscular body type; and angular, but slightly broad bone structure; and angular, slightly wide facial features that tend to be blunt-edged (wide-spaced eyes; strong, straight lips; a blunt or slightly wide nose and jawline; and moderately
angular cheekbones that then toward width.)

The final major spot on the Yin/Yang scale is the combination of opposites that represents the Gamine. Yin in size (petite), Yin in facial features (full and rounded), but Yang in body type (straight and narrow) and in bone structure (sharp and narrow). The Gamine is equal parts Yin and Yang, always maintaining a natural contradiciton that is the basis for her physical makeup.

Since most people have inherited a mixture of different elements, the scale can be further broken down as follows:

I. Dramatic--extreme, sharp Yang (As described above.)

Sub-division:

a. Soft Dramatic--extreme bold Yang with a pronounced Yin undercurrent. This is a Dramatic who borrows an undercurrent from the Romantic.

Strong, straight bone structure; body type tends toward softness and fleshiness; facial bones very prominent and exotic; facial features very large, very full, and very lush.

II. Romantic--extreme, soft Yin (As described above.)

Sub-division:

a. Theatrical Romantic--extreme soft Yin with a slight Yang undercurrent. This is a Romantic who borrows a slight undercurrent from the Dramatic.

Very curvy body type, with an hourglass figure; slightly angular bone structure (small, delicate, and slightly sharp); facial features are round, full and lush; facial bones are delicate, narrow and slightly sharp.

III. Classic--balanced between the extremes of Yin and Yang (As described above.)

Sub-divisions:

a. Dramatic Classic--balanced, with a Yang influence. This is a Classic with a slight undercurrent of Dramatic.

Symmetrical, slightly angular bone structure; body type tends toward either a slightly elongated line (narrow) or a slightly squarish line (particularly when overweight); facial bones are angular (may be slightly sharp and narrow or rather squarish and wide) but very chiseled; facial features tend to be symmetrical but strong.

b. Soft Classic: balanced, with a Yin influence. This is a Classic with a slight undercurrent of Romantic.

Symmetrical, slightly soft body type (tends to more roundedness when overweight); symmetrical, slightly round or delicately wide bone structure; facial bones are slightly wide and soft-edged (not sharp); facial features are very full and rounded but symmetrical.

IV. Natural--soft Yang (As described above.)

Sub-divisions:

a. Flamboyant Natural--strong Yang with blunt edges (not sharp)

Strong, straight bone structure that is elongated, wide, or broad; body type tends to muscular width or sinewy length; facial bones are strong and prominent but widely blunt or asymmetrical (not narrow and sharp); facial features are strong but narrow (not round and lush).

This is a Natural who borrows a strong undercurrent from the Dramatic.

b. Soft Nautral--soft Yang with a pronounced Yin undercurrent. This is a Natural who borrows an undercurrent from the Romantic.

Soft body type that tends toward fleshiness and curve, particularly in the upper arm/thigh and hip area (may become extremely soft when overweight); softly angular bone struicture that tends towards soft width or a slight elongation; facial bones are very full, very soft, and somewhat rounded.

V. Gamine--combination of opposites, Yin in size (petite) and facial features (full and rounded), Yang in body type (straight and narrow) and bone structure (sharp and narrow).

Sub-divisions:

a. Flamboyant Gamine--combination of opposites, extra Yang. This is a Gamine who borrows an undercurrent from the Dramatic.

Petite in stature; strong, straight bone structure, tending to slight broadness; slightly muscular or sinewy body type; slightly strong facial bones, tending toward bluntness or squarish shapes; full and rounded facial features.

b. Soft Gamine--combination of opposites, extra Yin. This is a Gamine who borrows a pronounced undercurrent from the Romantic.

Petite in stature; body type tends to be rounded and soft, with curvy figure, especially through the hip area; bone structure is very delicate, may be very slightly wide; facial features are very rounded, very soft, and very full; facial bones tend to be very delicate, possibly rounded and slightly wide.



Representative Clothing Styles and appearance elements:

Line, silhouette, and shape:
Yin: Cuved Lines. Graceful, flowing, silhouettes. Hourglass outlines. Fitted waists. Rounded shapes. Swirls, curves, circles.
Yang: Strong vertical lines. Stiff, smooth silhouettes. Elongated outlines. Sharp edges. Geometric shapes. Rectangles, triangles, etc.

Fabric
Yin: Lightweight fabrics that drape easily. Shiny fabrics. Plush fabrics. Sheer or soft fabrics. Challis, crepe, jersey, voile, batiste, suede, velvet, chiffon.
Yang: Heavy fabrics that hold a defined shape. Matte finishes. Hard metallics. Twill. Gabardine. Raw silk tweed. Oriental silk. Faille. Brocade. Leather.

Detail
Yin: Ornate and intricate. Soft, draped necklines. Ruffles. Shoulder-tucks. Shirring. Gathers. Short, shaped jackets. Peplums. Flounces. Full, swirled skirts. Tapered tulip skirts. Sarongs. Trumpet hems.
Yang: Sharp, crisp, and tailored detail. Square shoulders. Sharp lapels. Asymmetrical closures or outlines. Piping. Pocket plackets. Epaulets. Sharp pleats. Long, straight skirts. Long jackets. Crisp cuffs. Geometic and tailored necklines.

Prints
Yin: Swirls of color. Abstract florals. Ornate patterns. Watercolor blended (Think Monet)
Yang: Sharp geometrics. Asymmetrics. Stripes. Zigzags. Avant-garde. High color contrst. (Think Picasso)

Shoes
Yin: Strappy and ornate. High, delicate heels. Thin soles. Open toe or bare. Delicate instep. Delicate leather.
Yang: Tailored and angular. High, straight heels. Angular arch. Defined sole. Sharp or asymmetric shape and detail. Closed toe.

Bags
Yin: Small and rounded. Delicate and supple leather or fabric. Ornate trim. Gathers. Bejewling. Beading. Delicate shoulder straps.
Yang: Tailored and crisp. Geometric shapes. Envelopes. Clutches. Box shaped. Framed bags.

Jewelry
Yin: Ornate. Intricate workmanship. Glitter and sparkle. Colored jewels. Swirls, circles, clusters, and dangles. Delicate bracelets. Dangly earrings.
Yang: Geometric. Sharp. Crisp. Avant-garde. Angular shapes. Heavy or chunky costume jewelry. Hard finished metal. Wristcuffs. Crisp earrings. Sculpture.

Hair
Yin: Soft and set. Framing the face. Ornate, stylized. Cascading curls. Wispy outline.
Yang: Sleek and sculpted. Angular cuts. Asymmetric detail. Clean, geometric outline.

Makeup
Yin: Elaborate and colorful. Watercolor-blended. Sparkly eyes. Rosy cheeks. Glossy lips. Rounded contours. Facial features are emphasized (eyes, lips, cheeks). Soft, "pretty" colors.
Yang: Angular and sculpted. Heavy contouring. Geometrically blended. Exotic eyes (almond). Deep, matte lips. Sculpted cheekbones. Bone structure is emphasized. Smoky matte colors.

Haircolor
Yin: Soft and luxurious. Subtle highlights. Rich and luscious shades (honey, strawberry, chestnut, etc.)
Yang: Distinct and vivid. Dramatic streaks. Strong and vibrant shades (flaxen, copper, platinum, jet, etc.)



Kibbe's Celebrity Examples

DRAMATIC (Extreme Sharp Yang)
Joan Crawford, Greta Garbo, Lana Turner, Lauren Bacall, Rosalind Russell, Lena Horne, Alexis Smith, Katharine Hepburn, Maggie Smith, Faye Dunaway, Kathleen Turner, Jamie Lee Curtis, Barbara Carrera

SOFT DRAMATIC (Bold Yang w/Pronounced Yin Undercurrent)
Sophia Loren, Anne Bancroft, Maria Callas, Raqel Welch, Ava Gardner, Barbra Streisand, Diahann Carrol, Marlene Dietrick, Connie Selleca

ROMANTIC (Extreme Soft Yin)
Marilyn Monroe, Jessica Lange, Elizabeth Taylor, Jean Simmons, Emma Samms, Arlene Dahl, Madonna, Bernadette Peters, Susan Sradon, Dolly Pardon, Gina Lollobrigida

THEATRICAL ROMANTIC (Soft Yin w/Slight Yang Undercurrent)
Vivien Leigh, Hedy Lamarr, Rita Hayworth, Jean Harlow, Jane Seymour, Joan Collins, Donna Mills, Ann-Margaret, Jaclyn Smith

CLASSIC (Balanced)
Grace Kelly, Catherine Deneuve, Lee Remick, Diane Sawyer, Cybill Shepherd, Ginger Rogers, Isabelle Hupert

DRAMATIC CLASSIC (Balanced w/Yang Influence)
Jacqueline Onassis, Polly Bergen, Suzanne Pleshette, Linda Gray, Jane Wyman, Maria Shriver, Tracy Scoggins, Katherine Ross, Gena Rowlands, Phylicia Rashad

SOFT CLASSIC (Balanced w/Yin Influence)
Olivia de Haviland, Merle Oberon, Joan Fontaine, Norma Shearer, Barbara Walters, Blythe Danner, Meredith Baxter Birney, Catherine Oxenberg, Carolina Herrera, Meryl Streep

NATURAL (Soft Yang)
Ingrid Bergman, Jane Fonda, Carol Burnett, Karen Allen, Christie Brinkley, Ally Sheedy, Ali McGraw, Chris Evert Lloyd

FLAMBOYANT NATURAL (Soft Yang w/Blunt Edges)
Shirley McLaine, Lynn Redgrave, Colleen Dewhurst, Eve Arden, Carly Simon, Lucie Arnaz, Linda Evans, Princess Diana, Farrah Fawcett

SOFT NAUTRAL (Soft Yang w/Yin Undercurrent)
Natalie Wood, Carole Lombard, Goldie Hawn, Judy Collins, Sissy Spacek, Molly Ringwald, Terri Garr, Stephanie Powers, Liv Ullman, Kelly McGillis

GAMINE (Combination of Opposites)
Leslie Caron, Mia Farrow, Edith Piaf, Coco Chanel, Geraldine Chaplin, Jean Seberg, Paulette Goddard, Rosana Arquette, Pat Benatar, Heather Locklear

FLAMBOYANT GAMINE (Combination of Opposites, Extra Yang)
Lisa Minnelli, Julie Harris, Natassia Kinski, Debbie Allen, Debra Winger, Tina Turner, Twiggy, Bonnie Franklin, Patti LuPone, Shari Belafonte

SOFT GAMINE (Combination of Opposites, Extra Yin)
Bette Davis, Claudette Colbert, Judy Garland, Clara Bow, Susan Hayward, Debbie Reynolds, Betty White, Mary Martin, Victoria Principal, Linda Ronstadt



Kibbe Type Comparisons

Soft Dramatic vs. Theatrical Romantic:
Soft Dramatic is taller. Larger boned. Yang is dominant; Yin is secondary. Body type is larger, but curvy.

Theatrical Romantic is smaller. Sharper boned. Yin is dominant; Yang is secondary. Body type is trimmer, but still curvy.


Soft Gamine vs. Romantic:
Soft Gamine is smaller. More delicate boned. Slightly angular shoulders and jawline. slightly square hands and feet (but still small and delicae). Body type if very curvy, but trimmer and more taut.

Romantic is larger. Wider bones. Wider body. Curved shoulders and jawline. Fleshy hands and feet. Body type is soft and lush (very curvyL).


Classic vs. Natural:
Classic is more symmetrical. Narrow boned. Evenly spaced facial features. Chiseled facial structures.

Natural is more muscular. Broader boned. More irregular facial features. Broader facial stuctures.


Dramatic vs. Gamine:
Dramatic is taller. Longer body lines. Longer limbs. Narrow eyes. Straight lips.

Gamine is more petite. More delicate boned (but still sharp and angular). Large eyes. Moderate to full lips.


Flamboyant Natural vs. Flamboyant Gamine:
Flamboyant Natural is taller. Broader bone structure. Longer bone structure. Broader facial structure. Body type is larger (often quite muscular).

Flamboyant Gamine is smaller. Less vertical line to the body. Bone structure is long and broad in comparison to height (which is more petite). Body type is more compact.


Soft Classic vs. Soft Natural:
Soft Classic is more symmetrical bone structure. Narrow bones. Body type is slightly softer, tending to fleshiness.

Soft Natural is more angular bone structure (but still slightly delicate). Wider bones. Body type is slightly more muscular but still soft.


Dramatic Classic vs. Classic:
Dramatic Classic has more angular bone structure. Shoulders, jawline, hands and feet are squarer. Facial structure is more angular.

Classic has more symmetrical bone structure. Shoulders, jawline, hands, and feet are narrower. Facial structure is more symmetrical.


Soft Gamine vs. Theatrical Romantic:
Soft Gamine body type has more pronounced curves. Hands and feet are fleshier. Bone structure is slightly wider. Eyes are big and round, lips are very full, and cheeks are "apple-shaped."

Theatrical Romantic body type has smaller, narrow curvers. Hands and feet are narrower, more "birdlike." Bone structure is narrower. Eyes are round but slanted at the edge. Lips are round but less full. Cheekbones are more pronounced.





Edited by - Riley on 28 Jul 2011 11:10:56 PM

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Well, I'm definitely soft gamine (erring more on the side of gamine than romantic). No question.

Which makes perfect sense as to why some people have called me Clara Bow before. It was strange as saw the connection but didn't know what it was, then figured out that we really do have the exact same body type and body language/movements, facial expressions, animation... It's eerie. And, I seriously belong in silent films. ;-P

But it's actually helped me a lot in terms of dressing myself. Knowing my proportions especially. I'm used to dressing more gamine and in straighter boxy shapes (probably also more for Naturals), but they don't really do me justice.

Wondering whether to post pictures... heh

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Is this only for women?
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quote:
Originally posted by Kalisto

Soft Gamine
Soft, curvy body tends towards fleshiness.
Curved bustline and hips with some natural waist definition.
Arms and legs tend to be soft and fleshy, particularly through the hip and thigh areas.

This is totally me.

My only question is: if you're balding and have a goatee, can you still be a Soft Gamine? I didn't see anything about facial hair/hair loss in any of the descriptions...
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LOL @ Montag. I don't think a goatee or loss of hair should be disqualifying factors.

Is there any place they pair clothing styles with these types?

I deleted my earlier post, but I mostly fit Dramatic Romantic type. Mostly.


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So I'm guessing it's not only for women, even though all the examples are female. I'm also guessing that bust and chest are synonymous. I'll just take the test.
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It is mainly for women, obviously and unfortunately. I've been meaning to ask around if there are descriptions for males, as there really should be. I would think that some men could possibly type their style tendencies/personalities from these descriptors though..

There's also the 25 body type system by Carolyn Mein which has both female and male types, but that's more about diet than clothes. ;-P (In that I'm fairly sure I'm a thyroid type).

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Total:

c - 7
d - 2
a - 1
b - 1

Classic

makes sense because that's the style that usually looks best on me, although I do like so many other styles as well.




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I like the 1st outfit, the black sparkly shoes, sequined skirt, wide belts, and big bracelets. Some of those aren't my style (especially the shoes with the teal bow ). I'll post some other things I like tomorrow on the fashion thread.

Thanks, Riley/Kalisto.


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As with most things, I'm more an expert on my own style. ;)
So I'm not sure how much I can help here.

And well montag, soft gamine is "spitfire chic"... Sassy. Bette Davis.

Have you seen pictures of me somewhere Kalisto? ;) I'm currently a bit thinner than I'd like. I definitely like a bit more roundness/sprightliness to me. But, knowing how to dress my basic figure and in proportion makes things easier, no matter how much I weigh. It all remains in the same context of "soft gamine".

And I always always need things at my waist! Cropped or cinched, whatever. But having waist definition/emphasis makes such a difference for me. heh.

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I actually just did the test for fun. I had a hard time understanding what all the differences were... made my head spin.

Here are my results:

bone structure: striking!

body type: stunning and majestic!

Facial bones: stunning and majestic!

facial features: elegant and sophisticated!

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geez these descriptors make me feel like a superstar.
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^enforest lol






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quote:
Originally posted by savory



Wondering whether to post pictures... heh



Pictures would be helpful. Otherwise, everything's so vague to me, you know. :)



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quote:
Originally posted by Kalisto


And if you posed for pictures bending over or angled so that the camera picks up a nice rear curvature, gray surely wouldn't complain too heartily.



Ah, you truly know me, the depths of my heart and soul, Kalisto.



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quote:
Originally posted by Kalisto

For walden, about Classics:


quote:
from David Kibbe's Metamorphosis

Symmetry is the key to all your shapes. Whether slightly geometric or slightly curved, always blend the same shapes together in your look.

Yeah. I'm all about symmetry I do this instinctively. I actually need it in my home decorating as well, or I feel something is off.

Detail should be clean, simple and minimal, just enough to add an elegantly understaned touch. It should never call attention to itself, it should only add to the smooth visual line of your garments.

That too. I like a minimal amount of sparkle or pissazz. Anything more and I feel like a Christmas tree.


Clean, tailored necklines (man tailored, notched, jewel, slashed, small V's, turtlenecks and narrow cowls.)

Very much so. I love mandarin collars, trimmed down man tailored shirts with tapered feminine cut, jewel necklines look great on me, I don't like v-necks much at all, cowls have to be very subtle but i like them.

Elegant scarves in symmetrical ties (jabots, ascots, self-ties). Symmetrical lapels (notched, smooth shawls, or clean piped styles. Tailored pleats. Crisp gathers.

Yes to all of that. The less gathering and pleating, the better.

Jewelry: Keep your jewelry elegant, smooth, and symmetrical. Small, slightly geometric shapes are good, as are smoothly curved swirls. Be careful not to overdo! Go "elegant" instead of extreme.

I'm not big on jewelry and what I do have is very simple and understated. Big, chunky pieces don't suit me at all.

Makeup: Should be moderate and well-blended with an emphasis on soft colors and neutrals. A matte finish is best. Eyes should be slightly smoky, with just a hint of color. Lips and cheeks will match the eyes in intensity.

Exactly what I do. Anything more looks garish on me.

Avoid: Severe or sharp angles. High contrast makeup (pale skin, vivid colors). Glitzy products (even for evening--just a touch of sparkle is all you need).




Keep in mind that his book was written in the 80s, so it's not entirely adapted to modern styles. The basic guidelines are still recommended, but that doesn't mean you can't find things that suit you. A lot of the pictures you posted in the Fashion Thread have a basic symmetry...you're just a little more rock 'n' roll than the 1980s Classic.

That cracks me up, considering the 80s style was the antithesis of understatement, moderation and 'classic'

When I saw Linda Grey in there as one of the dramatic exemplars, I went "Hello 1980s!"









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Hey, do you have one like that about theatrical romantic?


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pretty much all a's
don't wear those type of clothes at all! strong, sharp, straight,crisp - I feel they make me look even taller and thinner.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kalisto

Oh, and walden, the appearance catch phrase for Classics is "Sophisticated Lady". This is also said about Classics (to give you some more POW language ): "And indeed, my dear, gracious, aristocratic, pragmatic, Classic friend, that is the very point of your metamorphosis! You are like a flawless diamond, brilliant and sparkling in your absolute perfection." (Kibbe) Were you by any chance born in October or late September?




OH YEAH!!! Bring on the ego stroking!

Nope. I was born in mid-February, on the cusp of Aquarius/Pisces.



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quote:
Originally posted by Aine1705

pretty much all a's
don't wear those type of clothes at all! strong, sharp, straight,crisp - I feel they make me look even taller and thinner.



You know that's what I found with their recommendations as well. A lot of it is exactly the opposite of what I would aesthetically recommend. If you have a lot of strong angular lines, you want to soften them, not accuentuate them. Also, if you are very soft, round and curvy, you want to contrast that with more straight lines as opposed to adding more ruffles and bows.

Even the classic, which was mine was for all intents and purposes decent and a no-brainer. There's a way you can go too safe and boring.





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. . .



Well, thanks for posting it anyway, heh.

A lot of it sounds on target, except that my shoulders are square, I have a square jaw and prominent cheekbones, avoid yellow-based makeup, and like my hair best straight and dark.

But it's pretty hard to judge when it's all so eighties-centric. I'm not sure how the fashion advice would translate to modern-day. Still, interesting Riley.


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oh sweet jesus



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quote:
Originally posted by Kalisto

Dramatic Makeover


So...she put on some lipstick?
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quote:
For Desdemona and lila:

Theatrical Romantics





Yeah, my face is a mix of vivien leigh and marilyn monroe. vivien leigh when i'm 115 pounds and monroe when I plump up some. I can swing 15 pounds back and forth pretty easy. i like to eat.


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I don't know what Marisa Tomei would be. Her cheeks and smile are a lot like my own.



you know, i have to say.. she looks pretty good for 45.

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20081208/marisa%20tomei%20nude%20the%20wrestler/big_marisa%20tomei%20topless%20the%20wrestler%203.html

more power to her.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kalisto

quote:
Originally posted by walden

quote:
Originally posted by Aine1705

pretty much all a's
don't wear those type of clothes at all! strong, sharp, straight,crisp - I feel they make me look even taller and thinner.


You know that's what I found with their recommendations as well. A lot of it is exactly the opposite of what I would aesthetically recommend. If you have a lot of strong angular lines, you want to soften them, not accuentuate them. Also, if you are very soft, round and curvy, you want to contrast that with more straight lines as opposed to adding more ruffles and bows.

Yeah, it surprised me, too, but I think he recommends what he does as a way to work with your natural structure and not against it, so you accentuate your angles if you have them, and accentuate your curves if you have those:



yea we're always trying to go against what we have! we have straight hair we curl it, we have curves we hide them, etc etc
gawd damn silly women

riley, i'm away out to get a white suit, gonna luk hot 2nite
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