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Timo84
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 Posted - 31 May 2012 : 6:03:32 PM
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very funny...  |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 6:21:41 PM
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My statement isn't funny, it's supposed to be funny but foremost an attempt to spam this annoying thread.
On the contrary, your statement about sx-first wasn't supposed to be funny, but was quite funny.  |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 6:28:08 PM
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| Well, you don't know. So it's ok. |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 6:33:56 PM
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The matter is not that I know, or (dis)agree, but you don't know the board well it seems.
Claiming to be sx-first is such a prestigious thing around here, most people get shot down. Then the proving has got to begin 
Saying "I'm sx-first, most (or all) of my friends are too", that was not only funny, but kinda cool. I wouldn't have had the guts. |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 6:40:26 PM
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Well, I percieved it as some kind of insult that I am not sx-first or something like that. You know, my w6-paranoia... 
The matter of fact is that most of my friends (which are not that many) actually are sx-first. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:03:18 PM
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Sx-first is considered quite rare, as far as I know.
Also it is common for people to identify with the sx instinct (= sx-first) for various reasons:
- people are horny, get aroused/think of sex often
- charge, interestingness, desirabilty is projected on the sexual instinct
- identifing with traits like counterphobia that are associated with sx
and so on
If all your friends are sx-first, it seems you have formed an elite.
And I wasn't the one who said you're sp/so. You know that I have typed you as a 6w5 (still do).
I don't know sexual fives (except from this board, if they self-type correctly). An example of a sexual 6w5 imo is Dr. House (played by Hugh Laurie). |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:06:48 PM
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Hugh Laurie is a sx/sp I believe.
Example for sx/soc 6w7: Farin Urlaub von Die Ärzte, Mieze von MIA |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:18:07 PM
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No, they are not quite rare. I see at least 25% as sx-first. And if you type me 6w5, in no way would I be sx-first then or soc-first then. That is obvious I have to say. I am in fact not outgoing enough for this.
Btw, actually in my family are three sx-5s (brother, father, myself). One sister is sx-first also, the rest soc and sp. |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:20:26 PM
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| Yes, Farin Urlaub is sx-first, "Mia" also. It's obvious. I would have typed Farin Urlaub more a 7w6. Mia.... I don't know, thought she was a 4, but 6 is also possible. She has got an amazing voice, quite unbelievable. |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:24:08 PM
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You don't believe me, right!?  |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:27:16 PM
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And what again makes you so sure that they are sx-firsts on not sx-seconds or even lasts? (your family, friends)
I suck at typing stackings, but in some people I encountered (few, I have to say) I'm quite positive that they're sx-first. From five people in my family I would type no one as sx-first.
My friends tended to be self-pres first. Which is supposedly the most common..  |
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thomg
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:27:47 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Timo84
Btw, actually in my family are three sx-5s (brother, father, myself).
ROFLMAO |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:35:26 PM
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Yeah, doesn't fit with your own uniqueness, right?
I have zero doubt about their types.
Regarding friends: I just know what type they are and it is easy for me to spot sx-firsts. I am quite blind recognizing sp and soc though. |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:43:14 PM
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Originally posted by Timo84
Yeah, doesn't fit with your own uniqueness, right?
Did you mean me with that?! Or thomg? I don't get it.
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Regarding friends: I just know what type they are and it is easy for me to spot sx-firsts. I am quite blind recognizing sp and soc though.
You type a lot of people as sx-first. In the media/arts it's probably more common because sx-firsts are assertive and can be rather fanatic, I believe. That gets them sometimes into jail and other times to the top.
Do you really think the energy of Farin Urlaub and Mieze is something a lot of people have? I don't think so. |
Edited by - sappy on 31 May 2012 7:44:07 PM |
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skunk
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:47:47 PM
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Timo84,
In my whole (non-virtual) life I think I've actually found myself personally acquainted with no more than two four sx/sp's and quite possibly no sx/so's, and I don't think I can recall having spotted as many as ten examples of both stacks combined 'in the street'. And that's before we even get onto Fives. I think maybe you need to sit back and take time to get more of a feel for the stack. It's what I had to do.
Edited in response to the flood of emails received at my web site in the few hours since this post was released. |
Edited by - skunk on 01 Jun 2012 03:31:02 AM |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 7:51:21 PM
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It was a comment to thomg, because he types as sx5 as far as I know.
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Well, this energy is not that uncommon... but I admit in others it might be more hidden. I did take a look at my facebook-"friends" (about 30.... you know, I am a five) and there are about 11 sx-firsts. So nothing really special, about 1/3. |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Timo84
Yes, Farin Urlaub is sx-first, "Mia" also. It's obvious. I would have typed Farin Urlaub more a 7w6. Mia.... I don't know, thought she was a 4, but 6 is also possible. She has got an amazing voice, quite unbelievable.
Yes, Urlab is seven-ish.. but the theme of the music for me seems more 6w7, too lazy to explain right now.
Mieze reminds me energy wise of whitelila from this board. Also Milla Jovovich.
I'm not a fan of M.I.A but a friend of mine is. We went to a concert once, she has quite a stage presence. The music is good, too. |
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thomg
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Timo84
Yeah, doesn't fit with your own uniqueness, right?
I have zero doubt about their types.
Regarding friends: I just know what type they are and it is easy for me to spot sx-firsts. I am quite blind recognizing sp and soc though.
What types your family members are (in Germany, right?) has no effect on my sense of my uniqueness, even if they were all sx 5.
My sense of my own uniqueness is much more secure than that.
The probability of 3 members of a family being sx of the same type are astronomically small, whether that is sx 6 or sx 9 or sx 3.
But 3 sx 5's!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence to be believed; meanwhile, your self-typing as an sx 5 seems very weak indeed. |
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sappy
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:07:37 PM
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Who said anything about fives??
EDIT: I didnt't read well, Timo said sx-5s.. I thought sx-first. Hmm.. should probably go to bed.. |
Edited by - sappy on 31 May 2012 8:09:09 PM |
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thomg
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Timo84
Btw, actually in my family are three sx-5s (brother, father, myself).
Not sure if you were asking me sappy - but the post is above. |
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Timo84
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:17:09 PM
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| What do you think the probability is that my brother is the same type as me when we are twins? Yeah, right, but keep drawing your conclusions without really knowing anything.. |
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thomg
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:24:52 PM
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Originally posted by Timo84
What do you think the probability is that my brother is the same type as me when we are twins? Yeah, right, but keep drawing your conclusions without really knowing anything..
If I knew everything about your family, then obviously the probabilities would change - as that would be the start of stronger (or weaker) evidence.
I don't really know anything about typing of identical twins, except that prima facie it seems much much more likely that they would have similar or identical stackings and types.
If you're fraternal twins, I would think that being the same stacking and same type would be highly unusual still, like for any siblings. |
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thomg
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:27:58 PM
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Timo, what do you think of my tritype for you (9w8 - 5w6 - 2w1)? Obviously, we disagree on stacking and primary type, but you've raised the possibility of 5-9-2 yourself - would you give the same wings to your 9 and 2 fix?
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thomg
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:40:13 PM
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The problem with this is that you seem to assume, either from some a priori theory or your own experience or both, that the first instincts and/or the stackings are equally distributed in the general human population.
This is palpably not the case. Corollaries of your theory include the following wrong notions (just some basic ones):
1. sx firsts are as common as sp firsts or so firsts.
2. sx/so or sx/sp is as common as sp/so.
My current hypothesis is that the stackings in the global human population are distributed like this (I know the numbers only roughly add up to 100 - and they're in order of decreasing prevalence):
1. sp/so - 40-50% - by far the most common - for obvious evolutionary reasons, since this is the most naturally practical, undisruptive, hardworking stacking and good for group cohesion - all positive indicators for an evolutionary preference.
2. so/sx - 20-25% - by far the second most common, but a third more uncommon than sp/so. The sp/so - so/sx interaction is the most common instinctual interaction, and the so/sx provides obviously more zest, bounce and fun, and more fertilisation of the social soil, nicely balancing sp/so. It is in a sense 'dangerous' that such a large percentage of humans are sp-last - but this is balanced by the 1:3 ratio of sp/so to look after and moderate the so/sx's.
3. so/sp - 10-15% - might be less than this, this is just my gut call.
4. sx/sp - 5-10%
5. sp/sx - 3 - 7%
6. sx/so - 3 - 5% |
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enneathing
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 8:51:08 PM
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I think -
sp/soc
sp/sx
soc/sx
soc/sp
sx/sp
sx/soc |
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What is Hitler's type?
